Jude Bellingham

[MontenegrinCuler]

All true but Bellingham is a very useful player regardless. Madrid won the double all on his back last season. He almost won Dortmund the league and it'd happen if not for teammates. Even this season, when Real is in terrible form, he scores some clutch goals and gives it all in absolute key moments. Same for England of course that he saved from historical embarrassment against Slovakia with something not many players could do in his place.

This is what I appreciate about him. He is definitely overrated but that's fairly expected. 21 year old, English, fairly good looking - it gives you much more recognition than you actually deserve. But that doesn't mean he is some dude who's clueless about football and plays dumb on the pitch. He will also most likely improve over the years in many aspects of his game as he's still very young.

 

[Horatio]

He’s class to me. Suffered from some weird tactical decisions by Ancelotti in preceding games.

But let me raise another point that has been discussed regarding Vini but is equally applicable to Bellingham.

Should be way more booked as well than is. Always see him yelling at ref in face.

 

[Maradona37]

All true but Bellingham is a very useful player regardless. Madrid won the double all on his back last season. He almost won Dortmund the league and it'd happen if not for teammates. Even this season, when Real is in terrible form, he scores some clutch goals and gives it all in absolute key moments. Same for England of course that he saved from historical embarrassment against Slovakia with something not many players could do in his place.

This is what I appreciate about him. He is definitely overrated but that's fairly expected. 21 year old, English, fairly good looking - it gives you much more recognition than you actually deserve. But that doesn't mean he is some dude who's clueless about football and plays dumb on the pitch. He will also most likely improve over the years in many aspects of his game as he's still very young.

Yeah never denied he is good at popping up with them moments. That's not the issue. The issue is if those moments would be needed if they had fewer players who were moments players in the first place. If you get me. It's a hypothetical thing.

I agree with your second para - I have never said he isn't a quality player, or doesn't have a degree of ability outside the box. I just think his talents definitely lean into stats more. I am not saying he's a donkey in general play. It's a push back to all the new Zidane (he is nothing like him) and best in the world and potential all-time great. I think that's well over the top. BUT that doesn't mean I don't rate him as a quality player. Like you say he will likely become more nuanced with age in other facets of the game as he's still 21.

If you get me.

 

[jamrock]

No coincidence his form has improved, since Vini or Mbappe have gotten injured, which gives him more space in the final 3rd.

The only position he has in carlo's 442, is at the top of the diamond.

It's not insult to say he's one of the best midfielders in the world, in the A.M position.

If he drops out of that position he becomes 30% less effective, if he stops scoring, he adds significantly less to the team, outside of his "work rate" which tells you everything you need to do.

If you were to have him and Olmo, and you needed one to drop deeper and play in the actual midfield, their is really only one choice anyone who knows football would make.