Kaka

[AnfieldEd]

All old school, recent (as in since 2000 ) Brazilians has more declines than rise
those were the exception to the rule.. the 80's generation (Zico , Socrates , Junior ) also left early to Brazil (exception was Falcao , Cerezo and later Careca, Romario and Aldair ) , Jorginho had a good time in Germany ..

with the small exception of Alves and Juninho.. look at the rest

Kaka, Fred (superman with the Lyon greatest team ) , Oliviera(Ricardo) ,Nilmar , Robinho , Ronaldinho , Adriano(had his psychological reasons but still opted to fuck up when given more than 4 chances since he left ) , Ronaldo (2005 onwards ) , Fabiano , Kierreson , the shorter Juninho (yes did great with Borough) still went back , Denilson, Pato etc

There both issues rapid decline and in many cases lack of adaption to Europe.. especially now that they move straight to big clubs unlike before

Argentina players tend to have more swift transition and longer continuity in comparison

Good points.

 

[Galning]

Keirrison that guy never had a decline. He declined at birth. (Unless we are talking about a different guy with the same name)

 

[JamDav1982]

Good points.

Not really a great point - give us any top nation and we can name players who didnt reach their potential or declined quickly.

This Brazil idea is a massive myth.

 

[jamrock]

Was saying the samething beast did, somewhere else the other day, didn't include some of the players he did though, was more taking abut those who actually did something in Europe.

I agree though

 

[JamDav1982]

Was saying the samething beast did, somewhere else the other day, didn't include some of the players he did though, was more taking abut those who actually did something in Europe.

I agree though

Agree with what?

 

[Beast]

Keirrison that guy never had a decline. He declined at birth. (Unless we are talking about a different guy with the same name)

He was called the "Next Romario " by some of the members here (Enter Poor_Sunyol ) when u bought him


@Jamdav.. no one decline or fail in adaption nowadays more than Brazilians.. u look at Argentina players they fight to make it .. let's take Maxi Lopez.. he failed in Barca went to Italy and still there .., Aimar still here , Saviola still here , Lucho back to Porto after a tough time in France, Milito's etc .. in the last 15 years i can barely name two players that kind of failed and even compared to Brazilians they are a success ...
1- Riqueleme
2- D'Alessandro

And those two time compared to Brazilian can be a success

The stereotype of Brazilians is now a lazy bunch who can't adapt.. for sure there is exceptions for the rule..I hope Oscar , Neymar etc can be the new generation of more adaptable bunch but the clubs in Europe haven't seen a stable Brazilian in a long time that why now unlike 10-20 years ago clubs are reluctant to go and shop in Brazil so early

 

[Poor_Sunyol]

K-9 was the next Romario. We just wasted his talent....

 

[xavisionary]

What's everyones favourite Kaka goal? Skip to 13:22, only place I could find a decent version of it. Alternatively watch the whole show and enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPyDuLthGc

 

[Meitux]

my favourite is this against manchester united,he owned all the guys that tried to stop him

 

[BarcaOG]

incredible to think that's actually how good he was.

 

[xavisionary]

I'll never get tired of seeing Evra take out Heinze like that. Brilliant.

 

[Bilal Khan]

stop praising the guy like he is a god and madrid destroyed..
yes he was a magnificent player, but when he saw he was not getting chances at madrid, he could have moved on instead he decided to keep earning his high wages and rot on the bench

 

[Galning]

stop praising the guy like he is a god and madrid destroyed..
yes he was a magnificent player, but when he saw he was not getting chances at madrid, he could have moved on instead he decided to keep earning his high wages and rot on the bench

Stop overreacting. Nobody actually said Madrid destroyed him. The closest thing was Yannick's post and he only said "Shame he ended up at Madrid".

 

[Bilal Khan]

Stop overreacting. Nobody actually said Madrid destroyed him. The closest thing was Yannick's post and he only said "Shame he ended up at Madrid".

its not about me overreacting, point stays the same, he is content with earning high wages while sitting on the bench.
he could have moved to a team where he would get more playing time .

 

[Sultan]

What's everyones favourite Kaka goal? Skip to 13:22, only place I could find a decent version of it. Alternatively watch the whole show and enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTPyDuLthGc

not a goal, but one of my favorite images is from that series against united. In the home leg at rainy san siro.

very unfortunate that he ended up at madrid.