Kylian Mbappé

[serghei]

Your problem is you’re trying to degrade a league you don’t follow. Yes, Nice finished 3rd in Ligue 1 last season, but that doesn’t make them the 3rd strongest club in France anymore than Leicester City winning the EPL in 15/16 made them the strongest club in England. PSG, Monaco and Lyon were competing on multiple fonts deep into the season while Nice was eliminated from Europe before the winter break, allowing them to focus solely on the league.

I do not agree that Napoli, Roma, and Inter are stronger than Monaco, Lyon, and Marseille and nothing from European to domestic results support that idea. That is your opinion, but it isn’t based in reality. In reality, Monaco and Lyon have the strongest results of the clubs mentioned as well as the infracture to maintain their strength into the future. As far as Ligue 1 heading down? This is also false. The competition is stronger than its ever been and growing.

You got that wrong. I'm not comparing Ligue 1 teams with Ligue 1 teams. I'm comparing Ligue 1 teams vs their Serie A counterparts. And Serie A comes on top, which is why they're the 3rd ranked league in Europe, and Ligue 1 is 5th. I don't need to extensively follow Ligue 1 to know for example that Juve, Napoli, Roma are stronger than any french team not named PSG. It's just common sense.

Nothing from European results support that idea? What about Roma winning one of the toughest groups, and Monaco finishing last in one of the easiest? Is there any better proof than that?

 

[slicknick]

My fellow Barca fans (and some fans of PSG and etc) on this thread...Not sure what you think but I honestly believe this argument over the leagues, former legends, Messi, Ronaldo, PSG fans and etc is starting to get pretty tiresome, don't you think? Let's all keep it relevant and stick to discussing Mbappé, how about that?
No matter what we think of Ligue 1, PSG and etc, I honestly think Mbappé is doing pretty effin great

 

[Jair Ventura]

You got that wrong. I'm not comparing Ligue 1 teams with Ligue 1 teams. I'm comparing Ligue 1 teams vs their Serie A counterparts. And Serie A comes on top, which is why they're the 3rd ranked league in Europe, and Ligue 1 is 5th. So I don't need to extensively follow Ligue 1 to know for example that Juve, Napoli, Roma are stronger than any french team not named PSG.

Nothing from European results support that idea? What about Roma winning one of the toughest group, and Monaco finishing last in one of the easiest? Is there any better proof than that?

They come out on top in your head, but not in Europe or infrastructure(stadiums, academies). UEFA coifficents go back 5 years so using them to argue which league is stronger today is flawed. In reality, Lyon and Monaco have been stronger than every club in Italy except Juventus over the last few seasons. This is a fact.

 

[serghei]

They come out on top in your head, but not in Europe or infrastructure(stadiums, academies). UEFA coifficents go back 5 years so using them to argue which league is stronger today is flawed. In reality, Lyon and Monaco have been stronger than every club in Italy except Juventus over the last few seasons. This is a fact.

Infrastructure? You're comparing teams like Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio, with Monaco.

Monaco play their games in front of 10k fans, while in a Milan - Inter there are 70k in the stands. Serie A is a big historic league, always have been better than the French league and are comfortably better to this day.

 

[Jair Ventura]

Infrastructure? You're comparing teams like Inter, Milan, Roma, Lazio, with Monaco.

Monaco play their games in front of 10k fans, while in a Milan - Inter there are 70k in the stands. Serie A is a big historic league, always have been better than the French league and are comfortably better to this day.

Monaco is backed by a billionaire and has one of the strongest academies in Europe. Their success since their current handlers took over speaks for itself(more success than every club in Italy not named Juventus). Inter & Milan share an old arena they don’t own, while the latter club is struggling with its financial backing and will soon be looking at FFP sanctions. Lazio and Roma also share an old, crumbling arena and have academies that aren’t much to speak of.

Lyon? Brand new stadium of 60k seats that they own outright, one of the strongest academies in the world, competent owners.

Marseille? Newly renovated stadium of 60k seats, strong adcademy, new owners and manager(Rudi Garcia), etc.

 

[Inter_rs]

Rank Club Elo Last Match Coach
1 ITA 4 Juventus 1953 (+4.8) 2017-12-23 Massimiliano Allegri (since 2014-07-16)
2 ITA 12 Napoli 1874 (+2.1) 2017-12-23 Maurizio Sarri (since 2015-06-11)
3 ITA 13 Roma 1861 (-4.8) 2017-12-23 Eusebio Di Francesco (since 2017-07-01)
4 ITA 24 Inter 1750 (-11.2) 2017-12-23 Luciano Spalletti (since 2017-07-01)
5 ITA 26 Atalanta 1744 (+10.8) 2017-12-23 Gian Piero Gasperini (since 2016-07-01)
6 ITA 27 Lazio 1742 (+4.5) 2017-12-23 Simone Inzaghi (since 2016-07-09)
7 ITA 46 Fiorentina 1687 2017-12-22 Stefano Pioli (since 2017-07-01)
8 ITA 56 Torino 1658 (-2.7) 2017-12-23 Siniša Mihajlović (since 2016-07-01)
9 ITA 57 Milan 1653 (-10.8) 2017-12-23 Gennaro Gattuso (since 2017-11-27)
10 ITA 76 Sampdoria 1628 (-2.1) 2017-12-23 Marco Giampaolo (since 2016-07-01)
11 ITA 83 Udinese 1617 (+9.2) 2017-12-23 Massimo Oddo (since 2017-11-21)
12 ITA 95 Sassuolo 1592 (+11.2) 2017-12-23 Giuseppe Iachini (since 2017-11-27)
13 ITA 98 Bologna 1588 2017-12-22 Roberto Donadoni (since 2015-10-29)
14 ITA Chievo 1571 2017-12-22 Rolando Maran (since 2014-10-20)
15 ITA Genoa 1552 (+3.9) 2017-12-23 Davide Ballardini (since 2017-11-06)
16 ITA Cagliari 1549 2017-12-22 Diego López (since 2017-10-18)


Rank Club Elo Last Match Coach
1 FRA 10 Paris SG 1901 2017-12-20 Unai Emery (since 2016-07-01)
2 FRA 19 Monaco 1764 2017-12-20 Leonardo Jardim (since 2014-07-01)
3 FRA 23 Lyon 1753 2017-12-20 Bruno Génésio (since 2015-12-24)
4 FRA 45 Marseille 1689 2017-12-20 Rudi García (since 2016-10-20)
5 FRA 70 Nice 1635 2017-12-20 Lucien Favre (since 2016-07-01)
6 FRA 92 Nantes 1598 2017-12-20 Claudio Ranieri (since 2017-07-01)
7 FRA Rennes 1577 2017-12-20 Sabri Lamouchi (since 2017-11-08)
8 FRA Guingamp 1565 2017-12-20 Antoine Kombouaré (since 2016-07-01)
9 FRA Montpellier 1564 2017-12-20 Michel Der Zakarian (since 2017-07-01)
10 FRA Bordeaux 1562 2017-12-20 Jocelyn Gourvennec (since 2016-07-01)
11 FRA Lille 1548 2017-12-20 Fernando Da Cruz (since 2017-11-23)
12 FRA Saint-Étienne 1538 2017-12-20 Julien Sablé (since 2017-11-16)
13 FRA Angers 1535 2017-12-20 Stéphane Moulin (since 2011-06-22)
14 FRA Dijon 1526 2017-12-20 Olivier Dall'Oglio (since 2012-07-01)
15 FRA Toulouse 1522 2017-12-20 Pascal Dupraz (since 2016-03-01)
16 FRA Reims 1515 2017-12-16 David Guion (since 2017-07-01)

 

[LeeRomeno]

Last 20 pages should be moved to Ligue 1 topic. What does any of that bs got to do with Mbappe?

 

[slicknick]

Last 20 pages should be moved to Ligue 1 topic. What does any of that bs got to do with Mbappe?

+1 bud, my sent exactly

 

[Alik]

The Neymar, Mbappe, Qatar, and Ligue 1 threads have all been derailed.

 

[slicknick]

The Neymar, Mbappe, Qatar, and Ligue 1 threads have all been derailed.

So let's put the stuff back on track, shall we?

 

[Acer]

don't think serie A is any better than ligue 1, the level is more of less the same and Ligue 1 is far better than the Liga Nos.
taking into consideration only the results of this season, does not mean much, in recent years Monaco has done better in Europe than any Serie A side that is not called juventus.
If Ligue 1 is so weak how is possible that some of the best players of some of the best teams in the world are ex ligue 1 players? And if the serie is so much superior why ex Serie A players are flopping all the time in others leagues?

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

don't think serie A is any better than ligue 1, the level is more of less the same and Ligue 1 is far better than the Liga Nos.
taking into consideration only the results of this season, does not mean much, in recent years Monaco has done better in Europe than any Serie A side that is not called juventus.
If Ligue 1 is so weak how is possible that some of the best players of some of the best teams in the world are ex ligue 1 players? And if the serie is so much superior why ex Serie A players are flopping all the time in others leagues?

Italian league has way more quality. I take Juventus, Roma, Napoli, Inter etc. It's not even close.

 

[JerseyAddict]

My fellow Barca fans (and some fans of PSG and etc) on this thread...Not sure what you think but I honestly believe this argument over the leagues, former legends, Messi, Ronaldo, PSG fans and etc is starting to get pretty tiresome, don't you think? Let's all keep it relevant and stick to discussing Mbappé, how about that?
No matter what we think of Ligue 1, PSG and etc, I honestly think Mbappé is doing pretty effin great

+1

 

[slicknick]

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[slicknick]

We can discuss Ligue 1 vs EPL, La Liga etc; or Mbappé vs Dembouz or Messi all day, but there is no denying this is a very impressive feat for an 18/19 year old
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