Kylian Mbappé

Bulgroz

Senior Member
He was talking about Ligue 1.

Kylian is too good for Ligue 1, so is PSG. With the quality tgey have, and the money, it should be a walkover. But still they struggle against these third grade teams.

Just see the space these team leave, sluggish defending, poor marking, mediocre GK, 75% of teams are like this in Ligue 1.

PSG wins easily against a random Ligue 1 team: "this is a farmer's league, all those teams are shit, it's too easy for PSG"
PSG struggles against a random Ligue 1 team: "PSG is shit, it should be a walkover against such shitty teams"

You can't be right Jair. It took me over a month to give up, you've been here for three years, you should do the same.
 

Lutece FC

New member
He was talking about Ligue 1.

Kylian is too good for Ligue 1, so is PSG. With the quality tgey have, and the money, it should be a walkover. But still they struggle against these third grade teams.

Just see the space these team leave, sluggish defending, poor marking, mediocre GK, 75% of teams are like this in Ligue 1.
I know that he was talking about Ligue1, i just want to stop that not-sense pretending that a player is not

For fuck Sake, Neymar, Cavani, Di Maria, all proved in OTHER LEAGUES that they are amazing players. Mbappe proved in Champions League and during the world cup (and of course in Ligue 1.)

About shitty teams, we can say the same thing for other leagues... I'm not gonna start this debate again. For me, it's clear, the difference it's not on bad teams (see last result vs Huesca)
BTW, i saw both matches last week-end, and i'm pretty sure Nimes is better than Huesca. In fact for "weak teams", i think Ligue 1 is more homogeneous because of the TV rights division which is more splited "equally" between teams than it's for other leagues.

THe difference is in the top clubs of the leagues, La Liga as far better teams than Lyon, Marseille or Monaco, even for Premier League i think their TOP 6/TOP 7 is far better without debate.

So for you Ligue 1 has to stay at its place accepting Premier League to literally ruin French academies year after year and say nothing. Thanks God, Paris and Monaco are trying something, and if i'm honest Marseille and Lyon too. We will see in the future, the best talents in the world come from French academies, so i'm optimistic.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
So for you Ligue 1 has to stay at its place accepting Premier League to literally ruin French academies year after year and say nothing. Thanks God, Paris and Monaco are trying something, and if i'm honest Marseille and Lyon too. We will see in the future, the best talents in the world come from French academies, so i'm optimistic.

I rarely agree with you, but this is true. Some Cules like this [MENTION=22709]Donatello[/MENTION] guy need to get their arrogance checked out with constant QSG mindset.

Monaco model is something somewhat unprecedented. I'm sure they make largest yearly net transfer profit of any club in the world, or at least they're up there. I'm curious how their reinvestment works and how they plan to close the gap in the French league given how much of an uphill battle they've got on their hands and it's bloody admirable how they've played with no insecurities in the CL 1.5 years ago.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Comparing Paris "model" with Monacos, really?
Come now, Monaco is a respectable club pushing above its weight by doing smart decisions, Paris is just another club propped up by oil money, nothing special or admirable about that, they just money around, thats their entire model.
 

Jair Ventura

New member
PSG wins easily against a random Ligue 1 team: "this is a farmer's league, all those teams are shit, it's too easy for PSG"
PSG struggles against a random Ligue 1 team: "PSG is shit, it should be a walkover against such shitty teams"

You can't be right Jair. It took me over a month to give up, you've been here for three years, you should do the same.

At some point I realized that most of the people that feel the need to constantly insult Ligue 1 don't actually follow football beyond the odd Barca match, and so I stopped taking their opinions serious. However I still enjoy identifying and sharing information about talents so I mostly stick to that now.


Comparing Paris "model" with Monacos, really?
Come now, Monaco is a respectable club pushing above its weight by doing smart decisions, Paris is just another club propped up by oil money, nothing special or admirable about that, they just money around, thats their entire model.

*yawn*

Galácticos - (Spanish for galactics, referring to superstars) are expensive, world-famous Real Madrid football players recruited during the "galácticos" policy pursued during Florentino Pérez's presidency at Real Madrid, where in his first tenure he purchased at least one galáctico in the summer of every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galácticos
 

Donatello

Active member
PSG wins easily against a random Ligue 1 team: "this is a farmer's league, all those teams are shit, it's too easy for PSG"
PSG struggles against a random Ligue 1 team: "PSG is shit, it should be a walkover against such shitty teams"

You would be naiive if you don't believe that 75% of Ligue 1 teams are shit. Its definitely a walkover against those teams. Remember, Ibra used to score around 30 goals.

No one says PSG are a shit team, its just that they play in a mediocre league and act like kings after battering those teams.
They still have the long way to go, a strong team on paper means nothing if you don't deliver.


Do they have a good team? Yes.
Can they beat good teams? Yes
Are they in the same league as Barca, RM? No.
 
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Jair Ventura

New member
You would be naiive if you don't believe that 75% of Ligue 1 teams are shit. Its definitely a walkover against those teams. Remember, Ibra used to score around 30 goals.

No one says PSG are a shit team, its just that they play in a mediocre league and act like kings after battering those teams and sometimes even struggle against such teams.

They have a good team? Yes.
Can they beat good teams? Yes
Are they in the same league as Barca, RM? No.

Your opinions are mediocre. Your arguments are worse.
 

Donatello

Active member
Your opinions are mediocre. Your arguments are worse.

My opinions are mine, doesn't matter what you think of it.
Your argument wasn't better either.

BTW I know how hard are you are trying to keep PSG and Ligue 1 relevant by making those numerous player threads of Ligue 1 unknowns.
 

Donatello

Active member
You aren't here to learn anything or to have a discussion. You're here to troll. Carry on. Let us know once you've finished.

Troll??

Glorifying Ligue 1 & PSG on Barcaforum.
Refusing to accept that 75% of Ligue 1 teams are shit.
Enough said.

And about discussing matter, you started commenting off topic first. Check yourself.

Don't drag it, you win.

Happy now.
 
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Bulgroz

Senior Member
You would be naiive if you don't believe that 75% of Ligue 1 teams are shit. Its definitely a walkover against those teams. Remember, Ibra used to score 30+ goals.

No one says PSG are a shit team, its just that they play in a mediocre league and act like kings after battering those teams.

They have a good team? Yes.
Can they beat good teams? Yes
Are they in the same league as Barca, RM? No.

Seems you edited your post, because apparently (according to my mail notification at least) you said at first "Ibra used to score 40+ goals", which was obviously wrong but tend to prove you had false ideas about Ligue 1.

Ibra scored more than 30 goals in Ligue 1 only once. His last season in France, which was very impressive. His other seasons ended with 30, 26 and 19 goals. Keep in mind though that he scored 28 goals in 32 appearances with Milan AC in Serie A, for his last season in Italy. He was at the top of his game when he left for Paris, and his numbers in France are very close to his numbers when he left Milan. While playing for PSG, he also scored 20 goals in 33 UCL games. It was overall the most prolific part of his career. He might have scored less in another league, we'll never know, but you're not talking about a player who was completely finished and became huge again when he arrived in France. The fact that Manchester United signed him, and that he was very successful there before his injury confirms that his french numbers aren't just due to an alleged weakness of the league.

Anyway, the reason is quoted your post earlier is that your argument ("PSG is shit, the proof is they can't destroy shitty teams") is the exact opposite of someone else's argument in the Rabiot thread ("in la Liga, lower tier teams manage to get good results against our best teams, which proves that La Liga is a tougher league than its french counterpart"). Hence the fact that it's useless for Jair (or for me) to fight against arguments like that: he just can't be right.

I would never say they're in the same league as Barca or RM, of course not, but that's not really what my post was all about. People tend to shit all over Ligue 1 as if LaLiga was filled with 20 incredible teams. Said it before, gonna say it again then: la Ligue 1 isn't as good as La Liga or EPL, obviously, but it's definitely not as bad as what everyone here think it is. There's a reason why most successful players in Ligue 1 are doing rather well in bigger leagues too. Of course there's always some exceptions (depending on the player's new team/new coach, his style of play, his general form, his adaptation and so on). But it couldn't be true if there was a gap such as what most people here imagine. There's a step, yes, but that's it.
 

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