Lionel Messi - v7

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Players that scored over 50 goals without including penalties.

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every running, physically fit Barca players >>> Messi and his Amigo the cancers of Barca

Messi 2008-2015 is a GOAT level player. Suarez 2012-2016 was one of the best strikers of the last 20 years. No one is denying that, you blockhead.

Stop foaming at the mouth and see that the criticism has centered around the last 4-5 years for both players.
 
If messi only had a season like 14/15 just that ...all would consider him the goat no matter what he?s doing with Argentina ... what he did during that season was out of this world ... the greatest performance by a player ever even by messi?s standards.... but cause people got used to his high level performance since what !! 2007 to this day ... they want more and more ...

But I really wanna know this ... what if messi since 2009 kept his goals average around 15 a year and only concentrated on being a playmaker only.. assists and build up.... how people would think of him ?
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Messi 2008-2015 is a GOAT level player. Suarez 2012-2016 was one of the best strikers of the last 20 years. No one is denying that, you blockhead.

Stop foaming at the mouth and see that the criticism has centered around the last 4-5 years for both players.


Exactly. It's football. Sadly the players decline with age. Otherwise we would never let Suarez go.
 

Mitchell1978

Senior Member
Messi 2008-2015 is a GOAT level player. Suarez 2012-2016 was one of the best strikers of the last 20 years. No one is denying that, you blockhead.

Stop foaming at the mouth and see that the criticism has centered around the last 4-5 years for both players.

Correction Messi 2008-19 is the GOAT

If messi only had a season like 14/15 just that ...all would consider him the goat no matter what he?s doing with Argentina ... what he did during that season was out of this world ... the greatest performance by a player ever even by messi?s standards.... but cause people got used to his high level performance since what !! 2007 to this day ... they want more and more ...

like i said before, his 2018-19 was as good if not better then 14-15, certainly as decisive in the League and the CL just far less help


Don't want to get into this again, mate. At this point everyone knows which is which. As you say, it's childish. We'll end up calling each others deluded fanboys or haters.

Everybody knows my position, your position, and so on. I am looking forward to expanding this subject with users I can find some common ground with. And avoid useless arguments if possible.

as long as you keep posting in his thread people who disagree will continue to voice their opinions, disagreements and so on
 

ArtistCatalunya

Active member
Well, there's a lot to be discussed about what is the root cause of his lack of effort and his submissiveness when under pressure. That's an interesting discussion, because it is, undoubtedly, there. That defeated attitude before the game is over, I've seen it time and time again, vs Atletico two times, when ran a bit more than Pinto, vs Roma, even vs Liverpool (even though technically he played decently on Anfield), vs Bayern, vs PSG. What is it in Messi that makes him back way from the fight when the going gets tough?

I can imagine how Messi thinks/feels..
In fact, as exceptional he is as a player, he lacks a particular trait, which is: the Leadership.
Messi has grown as an introvert very shy boy, don't forget that. He is naturally hyper-sensitive. Nearly 15% of persons have this trait, which gives some strengths and some weaknesses too.
That said, Messi thrives when he is in a laser-focus mode, when he is fully immersed in the game, enjoying it to the heart. He needs to feel confidence and support to give his best. When he is under panick and heavy stress, he can lose the clarity of his mind which obviously can affect his performance (the alien mode disabled,lol).
Some players (especially the defenders and the midfield-horses) thrive in games under heavy stress and pressure. They give their very best when surrounded by a lot of frustration and unexcepted stuff. Others, like Messi, have a different mental setting.. There is nothing wrong about it, as it has its side of special strength too. But these special players/persons need to be trained, empowered, prepared to face any kind of situation, to consider it as a beneficial challenge for their growth, not something to fear that holds them back. I know the mental preparation in Barcelona hasn't been good during all the last seasons (compare it with J.Klopp's mental training!)
 
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eaman

Active member
Will messi miss this weekends game and the clasico because of quarantine rules after his return from south America? I read something about that recently
 

Respekt_III

Anti-everything
Will messi miss this weekends game and the clasico because of quarantine rules after his return from south America? I read something about that recently

Don't they test before the games? Why would he need to. Sit it out if they all get tested frequently.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#55357;&#56629;&#55357;&#56628; Delicate lifts and controlled flicks, the elegance of Messi &#55357;&#56396;<a href="https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FCBarcelona</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MondayMotivation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MondayMotivation</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UCL</a> <a href="https://t.co/4WdseTB3Wm">pic.twitter.com/4WdseTB3Wm</a></p>— UEFA Champions League (@ChampionsLeague) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1315629234623307777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">���� Delicate lifts and controlled flicks, the elegance of Messi ��<a href="https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FCBarcelona</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MondayMotivation?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MondayMotivation</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCL?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UCL</a> <a href="https://t.co/4WdseTB3Wm">pic.twitter.com/4WdseTB3Wm</a></p>— UEFA Champions League (@ChampionsLeague) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1315629234623307777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Prime Messi 😯
 

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