Fati you?re only tolerable because you?re a Ronaldo fan who can have a laugh but just your campaign against kingLeo is proper cringe and weird. Almost stalkery. Seen on multiple threads how you bombard people with dms as well as mentions and replies when they?ve said they don?t want to talk to you. Cut it out man
Lionel Messi - v7
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The money that Messi brings to the club won?t be understood by people who have an agenda. In 30 years there?ll still be tens of thousands of fans buying the Barca shirt and putting the Messi name on it. In 30 years there will still be the fans who have bought merchandise, been to the city, been to the game all because they watched Messi play decades ago. They moan about his wage even though multiple articles that analyse the money he generates have said his salary is less than what he brings in.
Pre covid we were the club with the highest revenue. Messi is the largest factor in that. Not the only factor of course but the biggest and by some distance.
Rassvet
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Zoomers follow players maybe even more than teams, so we'll desperately need a superstar once Messi leaves. If we aren't competing for CL titles and we don't have a star player, we'd still be a big club but we could become much less relevant for a while.
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BBZ8800
Senior Member
We were always buying Balon D Or level of players.
Cruijff, Maradona, Stoichkov, Romario, Ronaldo R9, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi, Neymar.
We need one superstar both sporting and marketing wise.
DonAK
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serghei
Senior Member
Not all of those players were Ballon d'Or level when we bought them. We buy superstars, sure, but we also turn bright young talents or good hard-working players into superstars, and we need all of these components back if we are to get back on top.
Messi was the opposite of us buying a superstar. It's an example of great scouting and incredible player development from La Masia and the first team. On top of his incredible talent of course.
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Nazario1985
Senior Member
Barcelona was always a one super star club (I'm excluding Messi).
Now Messi was an exception and we have to put his on our head that the level we reached with him was a first seen in the history of this club and all clubs.
People talking about him like any player are just clowns who can't see how much influence we got with him which is also a never seen in any club.
Now back to reality and yes we need a star or a soon to be a star to lead the way, but we need more as we will not find another gem of Messi's level (throw him the ball and see what happens for 10-12 years).
Not even a 20 years old R9 level who could last 2-3 years at least.
Ansu is no way near ready.
Neymar could have been great if he had a brain.
Maybe it will not age well but .. i don't think that much of Haaland.
This is of course all speculation all we can do now is build for the next 2-3 years with Messi if he stays or not (which will be a very different setup)
This is Barcelona you can't say I'm out of any competition because I'm rebuilding, not respected team will ever do that as even the result after the rebuild is not guaranteed.
Now Messi was an exception and we have to put his on our head that the level we reached with him was a first seen in the history of this club and all clubs.
People talking about him like any player are just clowns who can't see how much influence we got with him which is also a never seen in any club.
Now back to reality and yes we need a star or a soon to be a star to lead the way, but we need more as we will not find another gem of Messi's level (throw him the ball and see what happens for 10-12 years).
Not even a 20 years old R9 level who could last 2-3 years at least.
Ansu is no way near ready.
Neymar could have been great if he had a brain.
Maybe it will not age well but .. i don't think that much of Haaland.
This is of course all speculation all we can do now is build for the next 2-3 years with Messi if he stays or not (which will be a very different setup)
This is Barcelona you can't say I'm out of any competition because I'm rebuilding, not respected team will ever do that as even the result after the rebuild is not guaranteed.
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You know i want barca to buy lewa but realize his contract isn't ending anytime soon. He is like a late bloomer, just like that sampdoria player getting top score ahead of ronaldo at 2019.
If messi gone for real, i wouldnt mind if we get him lol. Just need dest to train crosses to become as good as alves and make good replacement for alba. De jong fit his style very much. Don't know with pedri and others though.
Now im talking as if messi's leaving for real. Honestly, despite having Messi is still a cheat code, I can't say it's an ideal condition for both him and barcelona for now, though. If he's willing to have a huge (let say at least 80% salary cut), and understandable contract renewal value ,then its okay for me.
Messi is our number one legend but club's health take first priority.
How do you figure that? We literally never used a striker like Haaland. Ibrahimovic was the closest and he was a total misfit (not a fan of "blaming" Messi for that one). I just visualize Haaland standing in the penalty box for us all game long, which is hardly his strength.
The problem right now is lack of choice though, so Haaland is tempting. Especially for 75ME next year (well, plus 40ME+ for family and friends). If there was a prime David Villa, Suarez, Etoo or literally any of the starting strikers we had in the past 20-30 years he would be way down on my list.
Nazario1985
Senior Member
Haaland or not stop buying those 100m+ players !!
HE COULD BE Another Coutinho or a Griez you never know as he is still young even if he plays really good in his team where he is idolized, in FCB he will be just "a good player" in the loooooong history of the club, some players thrives moire when they are idolized in their club !
Still remembering when Mourinho brought Drogba to Chelsea and everyone doubted him even Abrahimovic (he play in a mid table team in a farmer league blabla).
With good prospect you can find players that will give you the same effect and be more humble and no headaches each summer.
That of course need a coach who knows what he is doing.
A sign of a ridiculously bad coach is : i need to buy a world class player in each position so ill have a great team by default !
Pedro was 10 times more useful to us than Ibra knowing he has less that 10% of Ibra's talent.
HE COULD BE Another Coutinho or a Griez you never know as he is still young even if he plays really good in his team where he is idolized, in FCB he will be just "a good player" in the loooooong history of the club, some players thrives moire when they are idolized in their club !
Still remembering when Mourinho brought Drogba to Chelsea and everyone doubted him even Abrahimovic (he play in a mid table team in a farmer league blabla).
With good prospect you can find players that will give you the same effect and be more humble and no headaches each summer.
That of course need a coach who knows what he is doing.
A sign of a ridiculously bad coach is : i need to buy a world class player in each position so ill have a great team by default !
Pedro was 10 times more useful to us than Ibra knowing he has less that 10% of Ibra's talent.
Jadentheman
Active member
If Messi leaves who knows. It is a fact that the Messi factor has handicapped players like Haaland that come to Barca during Messi?s reign (exceptions to Neymar/Suarez). If Messi leaves then Haaland is the big fish he?ll see everything and be tailored made for him. Though this could highly expose him.
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