MagIX
Senior Member
shame to end up like this, but so it is, it had to happen sooner or later.
Lionel Messi - v7
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shame to end up like this, but so it is, it had to happen sooner or later.
malvolio
Senior Member
Yeah we haven't been winning them because of other lacking aspects, like our barely existent defense. If you've watched our games over the past season you'd know Messi has consistently been the best player on the pitch, but we had to rely on deadwood like Lenglet, Busquets and Pique who concede goals for fun.
To answer your questions:
1. Not forever of course, but he still has 2 years in him where he would be a standout player for us.
2. Absolutely, like I said, if you watch our games he is consistently the best player. He starts almost every attack and finishes most of them too.
3. In our current situation probably not, but he was willing to go down 50% and then ANOTHER 30%. So at that point we could handle it, we have other players whose wages are a much bigger problem considering how little they contribute.
4. We absolutely can, I think playing alongside Messi is a huge learning experience for players like Fati, Pedri, De Jong and Dest for example.
All this being said, I think we can still be competitive without Messi. I thought so last summer too when Messi wanted to leave, I wanted the club to let him go if he wants to leave. It was borderline inhumane how Bartomeu forced him to stay. But it's just sad now because he wants to stay and the reason he can't is some financial bs. He would still be the heart and soul of our team for another 2 seasons easily and could teach the young players a lot.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Joan
Well-known member
That chance was close to zero either way. Has Barca won a single, relevant big match last season? Think not.
Shame this is how it ends, but sporting wise, BBZ has a point. There's little we can do with or without Messi.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
He would have a point if we didn't have a chance to win the CL two years ago where Messi carried the team only to be failed by the rest at the last hurdle.
But like I said, not in the mood for any arguments so agree to disagree.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Don, we don't have any chance in a CL.
1. our GK can't save a shot
2. our defense is horrible
3. we have Busi in midfield
4. not a single midfielder can take a decent shot and score
5. we don't have wingers
6. Messi is man-marked by 3 players
7. team can't do anything when Messi is marked due to 10 years of Messipendencia and no one knows how to play without him
8. we don't have any leaders
9. we don't have any captains
10. Ronald Koeman is a coach, who hasn't won a single game against any big team last season
11. we conceded 13 goals in the last 270 minutes of KO matches.
That's a goal each 20 minutes.
Statistically, numbers say that we would concede 9 goals in the next 180 minutes.
Can we score more than that (aka 10 goals) even with 3 Messis on a field? I don't think so.
So, what exactly is the point of keeping 34 years old Messi except sentiments and history?
Yeah, his 40 goals a season were definitely a non-factor in our 2018, 2019 La Liga titles. Definitely a non factor in us qualifying for the UCL in the past two years. He is so redundant.
Your "unpopular opinion" is unpopular because it's shit.
malvolio
Senior Member
so why bother then? we just keeping 6-7 players that are dead and just eat up salary.
laporta asking the captains if they're ready to give it all next season is the cherry on top. lol
Joan
Well-known member
The point isn't Messi wasn't influential (or at least, it shouldn't be), but that he wouldn't be influential enough on his own for us to win big.
It is a huge loss if we cannot keep certain level without him, though. Like qualify for the CL.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
We should make top four without him, but I wouldn't be shocked if the team is mentally shot after this and some of the players crumble due to the pressure they'll be under.
Joan
Well-known member
There's noone here happy with Barca keeping Umtiti, Roberto, Coutinho etc. It's just that it's impossible to get rid of them.
I do not think we'll make top 4 without him. We essentially have 0 reliable scorers. I'd say 1 with Griezmann, but he is so hot and cold I wouldn't rely on him. With the negative press on him, I can definitely see him going on a massive drought next year.
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