Lionel Messi - v7

[te amo barca]

Abidal hasn't done shit. Valverde was sacked when basically all our excuses run out and he did that in the middle of the season with no backup solution. To be completely fair Barto did that and not Abidal. After that he was all over the place. He went for Koeman than for Xavi and than for Pochettino and he finally settled with Setien as a 4th or 5th choice and now he is claiming Saitien was the right solution. A fucking puppet and a clown that's what he is.

read Abidal's interview. With the way he's phrasing it, it seems like it was precisely him who proposed to sack Valverde in December.

 

[malvolio]

Why would the French even complain? Half hardly play due to injuries and the other half are mediocre at best

 

[serghei]

Abidal should be backed in this by the board. Not fucking sacked or forced to resign. That would basically be confirmation that the board are basically licking Messi's balls on command.

 

[FCBfan22]

read Abidal's interview. With the way he's phrasing it, it seems like it was precisely him who proposed to sack Valverde in December.

Exactly...
Abidal knows what a Clasico is and FC BARCELONA shouldn't be playing for a draw AT HOME.

The Supercopa loss was just a tipping point to convince Barto.

 

[JamDav1982]

Abidal hasn't done shit. Valverde was sacked when basically all our excuses run out and he did that in the middle of the season with no backup solution. To be completely fair Barto did that and not Abidal. After that he was all over the place. He went for Koeman than for Xavi and than for Pochettino and he finally settled with Setien as a 4th or 5th choice and now he is claiming Saitien was the right solution with Barca DNA. A fucking puppet and a clown that's what he is.

So Abidal is lying about his part in the sacking?

Based on what?

You have nothing but a cliche you cant back up by spouting 'puppet'.

 

[Raketa10]

read Abidal's interview. With the way he's phrasing it, it seems like it was precisely him who proposed to sack Valverde in December.

And what the hell did he do in summer or after that Lpool game? He said that our management decided not to sack him and now all of the sudden they were listening to him few months later? A story for children and nothing more. Abidal has no authority in this club whatsoever.

On the other hand who is guilty for a bad squad planing and that is also in description of his job? Who is guilty we have no depth or no attackers on the bench at all? Who is guilty for loaning Perez while 2 of our attackers are injured until the end of the season? Come on guys do you really believe he is doing his job like he should?

 

[Riordon]

I can’t see how people can get angry over Messi comments.

First they said he supported Valverde. Then he wanted how gone. Now where it looks like it was a bad idea to let Valverde go in the middle of the season, Abidal blame it on the players who wasn’t satisfied with training.

Messi takes distance.

Give us the names, Abidal. Then we can see if players really wasn’t satisfied or just you making up for a bad decision.

Wouldn’t surprise me if guys like Arthur, Todibo and Alena wasn’t satisfied

 

[FCBfan22]

And ANY CAPTAIN in ANY BIG CLUB, not named Lionel Messi, would be stripped of the capitancy immediately for asking to single out players in media.

But this is Lionel Messi we are talking about.

 

[Sailor Mars]

You're not getting it. He critiscized abidal for even bringing the matter. It certainly disrupt the harmony of the team. If Abidal really feel the need to challenge a certain names, he may as well telling their names. It's not that messi tells him to give the names, but he really thinks that it's not a wise thing to be said.

Let's just leave the EV matters in the past. Many people are not happy with EV but there are also people that are the opposite. By bringing this matter in the middle of the season and not after the season ends is bringing the team of chaos. So messi critiscized abidal for the timing of the statement, if it even need to be said at all.

I have zero issues with what Abidal said and think Messi shouldn't let those comments get to him.

But I do understand Messi's frustration at Abidal directing the comments towards the team, while failing to criticize himself/the board for their terrible squad planning.

 

[JamDav1982]

And what the hell did he do in summer or after that Lpool game? He said that our management decided not to sack him and now all of the sudden they were listening to him few months later. A story for children and nothing more. Abidal has no authority in this club whatsoever.

The reports at time is that most of board wanted EV gone but dressing room heavyweights swayed Barto.

So you blame Abidal when EV not sacked and then dont give him any credit when he is.....

 

[serghei]

And what the hell did he do in summer or after that Lpool game? He said that our management decided not to sack him and now all of the sudden they were listening to him few months later. A story for children and nothing more. Abidal has no authority in this club whatsoever.

Ultimate call is by Bartomeu. He wasn't convinced in the summer. He was convinced in the winter. That's why he was sacked too late. In the winter, the amigos clan was left out from the decision making process. This is what has been bothering them. A manager they vouched for was sacked either way. Which is perceived by them as insulting.

The moral of the story is that not following the hierarchy upon a football club is built is extremely detrimental to all parties. A player has no right to demand a Technical Director to publicly name the players who told him about the issues in the team.

 

[te amo barca]

And what the hell did he do in summer or after that Lpool game? He said that our management decided not to sack him and now all of the sudden they were listening to him few months later. A story for children and nothing more. Abidal has no authority in this club whatsoever.

Abidal has plenty of authority. He is the director of football, a former player and a legend. He also wanted to sack EV after Anfield but Barto decided against it. And we don't know why. Maybe the players supported EV behind the closed doors.

 

[Mitchell1978]

Barto and his board are the ones responsable for all this.

If they actually did their jobs, Valverde would have left after the Copa defeat against Valencia and give a new coach a preseason.

Should never have bought Griezmann (nor Dembele or Coutinho) and should have properly replaced Suarez by now.

Abidal is just a yes man for the board who hasn't done anything right so far.

 

[JamDav1982]

I can’t see how people can get angry over Messi comments.

First they said he supported Valverde. Then he wanted how gone. Now where it looks like it was a bad idea to let Valverde go in the middle of the season, Abidal blame it on the players who wasn’t satisfied with training.

Messi takes distance.

Give us the names, Abidal. Then we can see if players really wasn’t satisfied or just you making up for a bad decision.

Wouldn’t surprise me if guys like Arthur, Todibo and Alena wasn’t satisfied

Abidal is not 'blaming' anyone as much as himself for the decision.

 

[Kul_z]

Barto is done dawg, laporta is working in shadows with messi and pique to take over