FinBarcelonafan
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I think DeJong could be captain material, but too young for now.
Lionel Messi - v7
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I think DeJong could be captain material, but too young for now.
Even though i support RM, i did feel kinda bad for him last season.
Now, obviously i didnt want Barca to win CL, but Messi really played out of his mind that campaign, he really wasnt joking at the begining of that season with the announcement.
His teammates definitely let him down last season, he shouldnt feel any guilt about what happened.
Now, obviously i didnt want Barca to win CL, but Messi really played out of his mind that campaign, he really wasnt joking at the begining of that season with the announcement.
His teammates definitely let him down last season, he shouldnt feel any guilt about what happened.
snowy
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Imagine if we had some1 like Jordan in psychopath mode
Just the other day, I saw the pre-Anfield pow-wow where Valv tells the players that Liverpool players would kill them in a speedy, fast tempo game and everyone was either nodding or had their head's down. Fuuuuuuuudge!!!! I knew it was bad but had no idea it was that bad! and then after that, when you hear that other LaLiga coach saying he couldn't believe his eyes how late Barca players showed up for pre-game warm-up and then, you have Pique who's bragging to that Rakuten dude that he laughed away Valv's instructions to stay put and went on vacation or something. I mean WTF
Messi can do it cuz even at 30%, he still kicks butt but the other vets thinking they're the same ,,,
and Messi as captain is contra-natura and he gains zero benefit from it. First, media keep using that as an excuse to throw more blame at him and also, it adds stock to the image of Messidependencia. I say think outside the box and use some fantasy. We're already a joke so at least use it to our advantage. Dunno if it's allowed by FIFA but I'd go with a round-robin rotation, passing the armband between players every match so as to promote the idea of the collective. Brilliant!
IF not allowed, I'd give it to one of the youngsters or even to Griez to boost his confidence. Bouzecap would be hilarious and a good way to flip the bird at the Catalan media yuk yuk
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Riqui Puig
vinni
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I agree, but anyone would have been better then Messi. Busi or Pique are probably not captain material either, but at least they could have taken some pressure off Messi.
Slevinn
Senior Member
But does he really interfere? Maybe a bit with Suarez (but he didn?t cause problems when we sold Cesc) but he isn?t the one that?s keeping Rakitic, and all the rest that should?ve been sold some time ago.
Neither is he the one that wanted our biggest flops Griezmann and Coutinho. (I don?t want him back but Messi might want Neymar back and say what you will, on the field we would be in a better place if we had Neymar instead of those 2)
And the biggest problem is that we don?t have any plan or hope with this board to rebuild the team. I?d rather squeeze out the last 2-3 years of Messi with us and then do a complete overhaul with a new sporting department and a new board.
Lol where do you actually get this shit from? Messi controls who comes in and goes out? Who must be on the pitch alongside him?
The prob is 90% of people believe this BS from the media like you. Unless you are in the boardroom meetings you have no idea any of this happens.
You honestly think, and be serious here....he wants to play alongside rakitic? The guy which has been shown on camera getting angry at rakitic for passing the ball back so much.
The only reason he likes Suarez is that he has developed a level of chemistry with him. Suarez understands Messi's movements and vice versa....just look at the celta vigo game. This is why the coach plays saurez over others in CF role. And one of the reason's why LATURO is being brought in. Because Laturo understands Messi's movements as can be seen from Argentina's games.
But it's gotten to the stage where this Saurez chemistry is not good enough, especially when we dont have a reliable LF/LW.
IF the board knew anything about this fking team they would never have bought griezmann or countinho, but bolsterd the midfield instead.
Just watch the Atletico game again, whenever, Roberto, Puig, or Messi has the ball the forward/ midfield is soooo static that you can predict where the passes are going to go well before its made.
Thats why this barca is having such a hard time breaking down opponents, and scoring goals from open play.
Lack of movement, one-touch passes, DRIVING FORWARD, and through balls while having the right players on the field that can achieve these.
Who does that fall on? > Setien.
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Respekt_III
Anti-everything
He does have power though, substantial power and he has exercised it before; lets not Kid ourselves.
Personally i don't think he has veto powers on transfers or anything like that but he does let the board know who he'd prefer to be signed eg neymar coutinho? luarto.
Secondly without a doubt there is a power dynamic on who gets to play and for how long, because of that he is just as culpable as the board and setien for this issue.
thirdly, suarez breaks down so many attacks and misses sitters, scoring a stunner every 10 misses isnt starter or even sub material yet messi continues to try feed suarez even though he breaks down so many attacks. this chemistry thing is bullshit and the only reason he still passes to him is because he is close friends with him otherwise he'll ignore him as he does Griezman.
Giving an opinion and directly controlling the outcome isn't the same thing mate.
Do you have actual said proof he had direct control over what you're saying?
serghei
Senior Member
In my opinion he does interfere. Check out that ESPN article. A reputable source has no reason to invent things like that. What it says in that article is probably true imo. Unfortunately, we have reached the Galactico Madrid stage, where older legends, who are too powerful, too popular and too strong inside the club, influence things which they shouldn't for their own benefit at the expense of the team.
Batistuta9
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I think people believe that he has more power than he really has. If you believe those reports then you should believe the one that came out the other day, that he's fed up with being blamed for everything and wants to leave.
As bad as Suarez is, at the moment he's still our best CF. Griezmann flopped when he played there and braithwaite is still bit of an unknown. Setien probably doesn't want to play him with the league on the line. That Suarez is our best CF, is on the board, not Messi.
Yes, he's pushing for neymar, but he's miles better than anyone we have at LW. He's pushing for lautaro as he knows he is a better CF than Suarez. Let's not kid ourselves, he wants a team that can win, not to play with his friends. You can see how much it hurts him when Barca lose. He has said numerous times this current team isn't good enough to win
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