Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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JamDav1982

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I would have Sevilla favs as.. they are better side, West Ham not in good form since the cat was booted and Bowen is injured and think he is best player.

They are struggling to score goals and Antonio has Dembele hamstrings and as only CF is not great to go two games a week.

Reckon West Ham will just sit in and try for 0-0 to take it back to home ground as Bowen huge loss for them on the break.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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That's mostly on paper. Bigger names don't necessarily transport that "popularity" on the field in terms of performances. It's hard to measure someone like Inaki Williams to a corresponding EPL 6-10th place winger.

Is Inaki worse than Wolverhampton's best winger? I don't think so.

It's hard one to argue. Because if the player quality would be as big, United should have swept the floor with Villareal last season in the EL final. Yet it was an even game. Many more examples like that.

There is a difference between PL and La Liga, but it's marginal, and not enough to make the corresponding English teams have a definitive edge over La Liga counterparts.

For the amount of resources UK teams have, they suck.
 

JamDav1982

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For the amount of resources UK teams have, they suck.

Two all EPL Finals in last 3 CLs and the one inbetween was a covid strange season.

Wouldnt quite say they 'suck'.

Compared to who? Barca/Real spend just as big money for most part and PSG spend more.

Man Uts lost to Villareal on pens.. it can happen. They also scudded two La Liga teams on way to that final.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Two all EPL Finals in last 3 CLs and the one inbetween was a covid strange season.

Wouldnt quite say they 'suck'.

Compared to who? Barca/Real spend just as big money for most part and PSG spend more.

Man Uts lost to Villareal on pens.. it can happen. They also scudded two La Liga teams on way to that final.

Compared to smaller clubs in the league. Top clubs have similar income.

I'd say Spanish get more bang for their buck.

English are dominating now because the worst Spanish team in the past 15 years.
 

JamDav1982

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Compared to smaller clubs in the league. Top clubs have similar income.

I'd say Spanish get more bang for their buck.

English are dominating now because the worst Spanish team in the past 15 years.

Eh?

EPL teams suck compared to smaller teams in EPL?

Nah Klopp/Pep and Tuchel have improved EPL and their teams not just about Spanish teams being worse.

Works both ways. EPL teams were worse back then than they are now in general.

The ones 'sucking' based on resources is Spanish teams not EPL.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Eh?

EPL teams suck compared to smaller teams in EPL?

Nah Klopp/Pep and Tuchel have improved EPL and their teams not just about Spanish teams being worse.

Works both ways. EPL teams were worse back then than they are now in general.

The ones 'sucking' based on resources is Spanish teams not EPL.


LaLiga:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1231398/net-revenue-of-the-football-teams-in-spain-s-laliga/

PL:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/566666/premier-league-clubs-by-revenue/

The difference in revenues are massive yet PL teams are not that much better. Meaning, LaLiga does very well for the money they have. PL sucks compared to LaLiga when you compare how many is spent.

PL teams waste money like no other league.

Meaning they suck for the amount of money they spend.
 

iniestaGOAT

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Compared to smaller clubs in the league. Top clubs have similar income.

I'd say Spanish get more bang for their buck.

English are dominating now because the worst Spanish team in the past 15 years.


They are sort of dominating the UCL. Not fully but Spanish teams still dominating Europa.

Barca will win this year. One more for la Liga.
 

Jadentheman

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Both are equally finished

Even finished, however, they are in the top-50 players in the world

Messi is still top 10 IMO. He only does poor compared to his past versions of himself. Only a few younger players are ahead of him. Most of these wonderkids running around still haven't even touched his diasterclass form :lol:
 

Messigician

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Eh?

EPL teams suck compared to smaller teams in EPL?

Nah Klopp/Pep and Tuchel have improved EPL and their teams not just about Spanish teams being worse.

Works both ways. EPL teams were worse back then than they are now in general.

The ones 'sucking' based on resources is Spanish teams not EPL.

This is an L pls delete
 

JamDav1982

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LaLiga:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1231398/net-revenue-of-the-football-teams-in-spain-s-laliga/

PL:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/566666/premier-league-clubs-by-revenue/

The difference in revenues are massive yet PL teams are not that much better. Meaning, LaLiga does very well for the money they have. PL sucks compared to LaLiga when you compare how many is spent.

PL teams waste money like no other league.

Meaning they suck for the amount of money they spend.

Disagree and think particularly from middle down EPL teams are a lot better and top four are a lot better currently.. bar the shambles at Unite who not sure even top four now anyway.

Fully aware there is more money in EPL and that is by far biggest reason.

Barca and Real wasted as much money as anyone in recent years. They 'suck' more for what have spent than likes of City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.
 
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FinBarcelonafan

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Disagree and think particularly from middle down EPL teams are a lot better and top four are a lot better currently.. bar the shambles at Unite who not sure even top four now anyway.

Fully aware there is more money in EPL and that is by far biggest reason.

Barca and Real wasted as much money as anyone in recent years. They 'suck' more for what have spent than likes of City, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.

You don't get the point I am making. PL is better than LaLiga but LaLiga spend their money better. That's the whole point.

PL isn't very good for the amount of money they have.
 

JamDav1982

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You don't get the point I am making. PL is better than LaLiga but LaLiga spend their money better. That's the whole point.

PL isn't very good for the amount of money they have.

No La Liga dont spend their money better. Look at Barca and Real recently. Both have some teams that spend well and some that dont.

The EPL has two all EPL CL finals in last three years. They are doing fine.
 

malvolio

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You don't get the point I am making. PL is better than LaLiga but LaLiga spend their money better. That's the whole point.

PL isn't very good for the amount of money they have.

Agreed. Take out the top 6 in EPL and you're not left with much in terms of European results and actual quality in the football played. Regardless of the money spent and players/managers those sides have.
 
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