Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

[Temptation]

Today 15 years ago Messi was born!

One of my favourite Messi goals. So smooth. It's like once he started the run, his adrenaline helped him instinctively beat every player one by one. Unreal goal.

 

[Temptation]

Messi in La Liga was like 80% of our output. He had numerous performances that won us games. You just needed a good support cast for him to get us over the line, in most years.

When he had a great support cast we also dominated in Europe.

Of course Messi couldn't do it alone. It's one thing to have telepathic understanding with the best RB ever in Dani Alves and another thing having Semedo as RB partner.

Agree to an extent but imo even calling his Prime Barca teammates "support cast" is very disrespectful.

That support cast(without Alves) won a WC and 2 Euros.

 

[Raketa10]

Well you see you are right.
Barca would have won a lot of trophies with that team even without messi.
Messi needed that Barca than Barca needed Messi.
Messi just made it look better.

As I mentioned he is a win more player
If team is awesome he makes it even more awesome
If team is doing bad he just makes it a lot more worse.

My point is that Barca didn?t need to be in the situation we are currently in because of the outrageous contracts to Messi and Friends.

Yeah, just like Bulls would have won it regularly without Jordan or Lakers without Kobe or Real without Ronaldo or Brazil without Pele. Please stop writing nonsense and check his stats. No one is claiming Messi did it alone but he was by far our most important player during that period.

 

[malvolio]

Agree to an extent but imo even calling his Prime Barca teammates "support cast" is very disrespectful.

That support cast(without Alves) won a WC and 2 Euros.

Xavi, Iniesta and Busi have wanked themselves silly many a times at the greatness of Messi. They know their place in the hierarchy. And I've mainly used the term in order to focus on Messi's output and how bad we handled our squad that he ended up with Griezmann and Braithwaite as attack partners.

 

[Temptation]

Xavi, Iniesta and Busi have wanked themselves silly many a times at the greatness of Messi. They know their place in the hierarchy. And I've mainly used the term in order to focus on Messi's output and how bad we handled our squad that he ended up with Griezmann and Braithwaite as attack partners.

Messi is a GOAT level player and obviously better than those players but they were just as crucial to the famous Prime Barca system and it's success as Messi was. We saw how killer those players were for Spain nt with a similar philosophy.

 

[Raketa10]

Messi is a GOAT level player and obviously better than those players but they were just as crucial to the famous Prime Barca system and it's success as Messi was. We saw how killer those players were for Spain nt with a similar philosophy.

They were immensely important but definitely not as crucial. That team was the best football team I have ever seen but Messi was definitely the most important part of the team. It's like saying that Pippen, Rodman or Kukoc were equally important for Bulls like Jordan was. Yes they were fabulous players who would eventually won 1 or maybe 2 titles but definitely not 6 of them. It's similar with Messi and Barca.

 

[malvolio]

Messi is a GOAT level player and obviously better than those players but they were just as crucial to the famous Prime Barca system and it's success as Messi was. We saw how killer those players were for Spain nt with a similar philosophy.

Not denying that. It was the perfect storm for us to have all those legendary players hitting their prime at the same time, in a system they knew since childhood.

 

[BarcaGirl]

Messi's departure really brought out the worst in a lot of barca fans. The things I've been reading in here ...yikes.

 

[JamDav1982]

Messi was the best of all of them but in a way that he could be the best player in 4 games out of ten Xavi/Iniesta 2/3 times out of ten etc in those peak sides.

But overall Messi was the cherry on cake.

Being the best of that bunch and being the one who is at cutting edge of park he would always get the biggest headlines.

Current Messi would have prime Xavi over in how big a difference could make to a team struggling for identity.

 

[Temptation]

Messi's departure really brought out the worst in a lot of barca fans. The things I've been reading in here ...yikes.

Many aren't actually Barca fans tbf.

 

[Blinkfloyd]

Jordan and late Kobe were captains of the team with elite attitude. Never stopped running, never stopped marking until the last day on the team.
I would not put Messi in same league as these players attitude and leadership wise.

W.r.t to talent there is no denying Messi?s talent only he could do some of things he does.

 

[Temptation]

Messi was the best of all of them but in a way that he could be the best player in 4 games out of ten Xavi/Iniesta 2/3 times out of ten etc in those peak sides.

But overall Messi was the cherry on cake.

Being the best of that bunch and being the one who is at cutting edge of park he would always get the biggest headlines.

Current Messi would have prime Xavi over in how big a difference could make to a team struggling for identity.

Fair Enough. LM was a GOAT level player in his peak and deserved the plaudits he got back then.

We shouldn't forget how crucial those other players were in the system and tactics. That's my point. I think the word "supporting cast" here is derogatory given how spectacular those players were at their own jobs in Guardiola's system.

 

[JamDav1982]

Jordan and late Kobe were captains of the team with elite attitude. Never stopped running, never stopped marking until the last day on the team.
I would not put Messi in same league as these players attitude and leadership wise.

W.r.t to talent there is no denying Messi?s talent only he could do some of things he does.

Cant compare.

Who is the best ever footballer in your opinion?

 

[Blinkfloyd]

Dribbling , Shooting, Freekicks - Prime Messi, with Maradona close or almost same. Like Mourinho said ? He is like a good porn movie? . I don?t know if that statement is true. 😂😂
Tactics, Influence , Leadership - Johan Cryuff

So yeah Messi would be right up there in terms of technical skills.

 

[Temptation]

Dribbling , Shooting, Freekicks - Prime Messi, with Maradona close or almost same. Like Mourinho said ? He is like a good porn movie? . I don?t know if that statement is true. 😂😂
Tactics, Influence , Leadership - Johan Cryuff

So yeah Messi would be right up there in terms of technical skills.

Anti climatic post. Disappointed. 2 out of 10.