AS accuses Barca of secret alliance with Luis Enrique. They are saying we are doing a conspiracy against Madrid. (supposed claim: Madrid-Celta match settled by cash)
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DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Martinez and De Boer are both a gamble just like Luis Enrique. Besides, I doubt De Boer would have come anyway, im sure Cruyff and perhaps even Van Gaal would have advised him not to and he would have listened to him or them both if thats the case.
Wenger? Please........
Kohe321
New member
I'm really happy with Lucho.
For one, our youth players will get a chance to play, compared to now when it seems they can only get minutes if there is a major injury on one of our untouchable starters. Also, we'll get back to our roots and hopefully start playing beautiful fotball that plays to Messi, Iniesta and the rest of the squads strengths again.
Seriously, just watching us play like Barca again, and not like West Ham with a thousand crosses into the box, will put a smile back to my face. I'm sure Messi has gotten so sick of Tatas tactics by now. He will probably get a lot of joy from finally playing some quick tiki-taka attacking football again after functioning as our very own 1,69m tall Andy Carrol for this entire season...
For one, our youth players will get a chance to play, compared to now when it seems they can only get minutes if there is a major injury on one of our untouchable starters. Also, we'll get back to our roots and hopefully start playing beautiful fotball that plays to Messi, Iniesta and the rest of the squads strengths again.
Seriously, just watching us play like Barca again, and not like West Ham with a thousand crosses into the box, will put a smile back to my face. I'm sure Messi has gotten so sick of Tatas tactics by now. He will probably get a lot of joy from finally playing some quick tiki-taka attacking football again after functioning as our very own 1,69m tall Andy Carrol for this entire season...
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DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
His tenure at Celta is more indicative than Roma would be. Being his first job in top flight football, that was a growing experience for him in a league like Serie A which is difficult for playing attacking football. He didn't do well obviously but it's difficult to shine in a situation like that
At Celta he hasn't been unbelievable but I'd say his side has been fairly balanced and has shown potential as a manager. I think it's too early for him as he needs more time to hit his stride as a coach, but it's going to happen anyway so I hope he comes in mentally prepared and with enthusiasm to succeed. Whatever happens, he needs a huge squad revamp to work with.
At Celta he hasn't been unbelievable but I'd say his side has been fairly balanced and has shown potential as a manager. I think it's too early for him as he needs more time to hit his stride as a coach, but it's going to happen anyway so I hope he comes in mentally prepared and with enthusiasm to succeed. Whatever happens, he needs a huge squad revamp to work with.
Cule4life
The Culest
So much fail in that post? Are you a member of the Barca Board?Yeah defence is the most obvious culprit but what has this "godly" style of ours achieved this season? How many goals we scored against defensively strong teams like Atletico, Levante where we dropped crucial points? Our current style is just possession for possession sake. We need more variation like Tata tried in the first half of the season but no Xavi wanted more possession.
If Zubi loved our club so much then what has he been doing for the past 3 years when we needed reinforcements? Why did he say Puyol was our new signing every year? Yeah im sure that he loves the club and the massive salary and benefits he gets for doing nothing have nothing to do with it.
Tactics not important?
If only motivation is needed why not hire a Marine drill sergeant? He will light a fire under everyone's asses. You just turned modern football on its head and proved that other top clubs hiring and paying huge salaries to tactically astute managers are fools. They should just adopt our style and they wont need tactics
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Flavia
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AS accuses Barca of secret alliance with Luis Enrique. They are saying we are doing a conspiracy against Madrid. (supposed claim: Madrid-Celta match settled by cash
Ass
Everyone knows this is about next season, but they still find a way to burp conspiracy theories
ebc_99
Active member
Yeah defence is the most obvious culprit but what has this "godly" style of ours achieved this season? How many goals we scored against defensively strong teams like Atletico, Levante where we dropped crucial points? Our current style is just possession for possession sake. We need more variation like Tata tried in the first half of the season but no Xavi wanted more possession.
We will always drop points, every team does but our problem is not a lack of goals for, but rather too many against. The style itself is fine, we are not as sharp as we used to be but I think that is a motivational issue rather than a tactical one.
If Zubi loved our club so much then what has he been doing for the past 3 years when we needed reinforcements? Why did he say Puyol was our new signing every year? Yeah im sure that he loves the club and the massive salary and benefits he gets for doing nothing have nothing to do with it.
Tactics not important?
You just turned modern football on its head and proved that other top clubs hiring and paying huge salaries to tactically astute managers are fools. They should just adopt our style and they wont need tactics
I didn't say tactics aren't important, just not as important as with other clubs and that is true because we already have a built in system.
The point I was making was that we are not far away and our defence alone cost us titles this year. With a better defence we will not need to score as many goals, but with a better defence it will allow us to take more risks which will result in more goals.
I think our defence is key to success next season, our midfield and attack is still the best.
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footyfan
Calma, calma
AS accuses Barca of secret alliance with Luis Enrique. They are saying we are doing a conspiracy against Madrid. (supposed claim: Madrid-Celta match settled by cash
What's so funny about it? Didn't you say that this is a normal occurrence in Spain?
i_bleed_blaugrana
Senior Member
Don't judge his Roma tenure too harshly, as its important to keep in mind the situation around the club. That squad was heavily unbalanced and suffered from similar defensive issues like we do now. When you have old farts like Burdisso and Heinze as your starting CBs, your going to have defensive problems. Kinda like when you play a DM and LWB as a CB...
I won't disagree with the sentiment though about a need to evolve from a 4-3-3 with attacking fullbacks. Although I think with a more fit and sharper squad the tactics could still work but I am really tired of seeing us look so sloppy defensively. Its heart in mouth stuff every time the opposition breaks on us and I'm afraid sticking with Alba and Alves in a back four will continue the trend, no matter if we had Thiago Silva in the back.
But for whats available and the situation we find ourselves in, Lucho makes a lot of sense. As far as tactically speaking, the only coach who I think could offer more is Frank de Boer but like others have said, Cruyff will make sure he wouldn't come anytime soon.
Klopp doesn't want to leave and I want him to stay at Dortmund personally. Valverde doesn't want to leave either, Paco Jemez doesn't know the club, why would Simeone join a club that he originally set out to dethrone and Wenger at Barca? Lets bring a coach who continually has a squad that under-performs in big game, always has a laundry list of players in the clinic and can't seem to figure out how to get past fourth when you have world class talent like Ozil, Cazorla, Oxlaide and in the past RVP, Nasri and our very own Fabregas of course. Also shows signs of an unwillingness to evolve and a hesitation to venture into the market? No thank you.
The biggest reasons why I like Lucho as our next manager is because he is a stickler on fitness and his knowledge of our youth program. During the transfer ban, we won't have a choice but to rely on La Masia to fill any holes in the squad during next year and its imperative that we have a manager who will play and develop young players so they can make the transition to the first team. Lucho has proven at Celta that he can deliver in this department. I think with some fresh young players challenging the senior players and Lucho demanding nothing less than 100% from the players every game, the lack of motivation and complacency we see nowadays won't be here with him.
I don't have a problem with us losing as long as we give 100% and stay true to our principles and I think Lucho more than anyone can deliver that to the team. And we have seen what this team is capable when its motivated and firing on all cylinders.
If you compare Pep to Lucho, they have a lot of similar qualities. Pep isn't a master of tactical adjustments during a game, Pep's genius came from how he prepared the team on the training ground and I think in that regard, Lucho can do the same thing. Plus Lucho has more experience than Pep did when he was appointed which would suggest he should be better, at least on paper, than Pep was. Like others have said, perhaps the only reason why Lucho struggled with Roma was because the quality wasn't nearly as good as it is here.
With some solid defensive purchases, a few younger players coming through to challenge our starters, Lucho and Puyol demanding maximum effort from the senior players and hopefully a desire all around for us to get at least close to level we used to be, I don't see a lot of reasons why people think Lucho wouldn't succeed here.
I won't disagree with the sentiment though about a need to evolve from a 4-3-3 with attacking fullbacks. Although I think with a more fit and sharper squad the tactics could still work but I am really tired of seeing us look so sloppy defensively. Its heart in mouth stuff every time the opposition breaks on us and I'm afraid sticking with Alba and Alves in a back four will continue the trend, no matter if we had Thiago Silva in the back.
But for whats available and the situation we find ourselves in, Lucho makes a lot of sense. As far as tactically speaking, the only coach who I think could offer more is Frank de Boer but like others have said, Cruyff will make sure he wouldn't come anytime soon.
Klopp doesn't want to leave and I want him to stay at Dortmund personally. Valverde doesn't want to leave either, Paco Jemez doesn't know the club, why would Simeone join a club that he originally set out to dethrone and Wenger at Barca? Lets bring a coach who continually has a squad that under-performs in big game, always has a laundry list of players in the clinic and can't seem to figure out how to get past fourth when you have world class talent like Ozil, Cazorla, Oxlaide and in the past RVP, Nasri and our very own Fabregas of course. Also shows signs of an unwillingness to evolve and a hesitation to venture into the market? No thank you.
The biggest reasons why I like Lucho as our next manager is because he is a stickler on fitness and his knowledge of our youth program. During the transfer ban, we won't have a choice but to rely on La Masia to fill any holes in the squad during next year and its imperative that we have a manager who will play and develop young players so they can make the transition to the first team. Lucho has proven at Celta that he can deliver in this department. I think with some fresh young players challenging the senior players and Lucho demanding nothing less than 100% from the players every game, the lack of motivation and complacency we see nowadays won't be here with him.
I don't have a problem with us losing as long as we give 100% and stay true to our principles and I think Lucho more than anyone can deliver that to the team. And we have seen what this team is capable when its motivated and firing on all cylinders.
If you compare Pep to Lucho, they have a lot of similar qualities. Pep isn't a master of tactical adjustments during a game, Pep's genius came from how he prepared the team on the training ground and I think in that regard, Lucho can do the same thing. Plus Lucho has more experience than Pep did when he was appointed which would suggest he should be better, at least on paper, than Pep was. Like others have said, perhaps the only reason why Lucho struggled with Roma was because the quality wasn't nearly as good as it is here.
With some solid defensive purchases, a few younger players coming through to challenge our starters, Lucho and Puyol demanding maximum effort from the senior players and hopefully a desire all around for us to get at least close to level we used to be, I don't see a lot of reasons why people think Lucho wouldn't succeed here.
onzeXI
New member
The Roma players looked like they didn't believe in the style of play that LE wanted and played side to side and back passes without any forward intent for huge portions of the game. I didn't notice Celta playing that way too much in the few times I saw them this year so I have to assume the Italian mentality just couldn't deal with LE's philosophy. I'm not convinced that he's the right man for the job, though.
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maxmss
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Can't understand why it's a panic move and how they are not doing their job? What do you think needs to be done? They decided to hire Lucho (which is a good choice for me) and decided to secure him early and get his advice on buying new players. That's actually a smart move. Barca board is not an enemy-give them credit when they do something good and criticize when they screw up.
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