Luis Enrique

[blaugrana1987]

Rijkaard didn't have great CV either

It doesn't matter. He succeeded, but after that vanished, so its exception to the rule. Large percentage of mid table managers can't lead big teams. Case in point : Lucho, Moyes.

 

[Andrew M]

It doesn't matter. He succeeded, but after that vanished, so its exception to the rule. Large percentage of mid table managers can't lead big teams. Case in point : Lucho, Moyes.

Rijkaard was under lots of pressure early on. And managers have to start somewhere.

 

[Flavia]

Tactically I don't see what to blame. Was a typical Barca performance away from home against 10 men behind the ball 3 days after a difficult CL game. Put a lot of pressure and lacked the sharpness in the final meters to create clear cut chances against a defensive wall. lol @ people going batshit crazy. You better get USED to this, juggernaut Barca is gone and even Pep lost in this stadium in his last season.

Here's hoping Lucho gets sacked next summer but the transfer ban remains. I will have lots of luls seeing the reactions on this forum and Twitter when de Boer, Koeman, Laudrup or whoever coaches the same squad which will age yet another year. I'm sure they will rule the world.

You really think Lucho can't do better with this squad? The way the midfield is playing, not creating chances, and Messi having to do it all, that doesn't work. Fb's as wingers neither. It's not that hard to see.
De boer, koeman laudrup aren't the names to replace him, anyway. They're as green as Lucho is.

 

[Ghostmaster]

Here's hoping Lucho gets sacked next summer but the transfer ban remains. I will have lots of luls seeing the reactions on this forum and Twitter when de Boer, Koeman, Laudrup or whoever coaches the same squad which will age yet another year. I'm sure they will rule the world.

I am not worried Sergi Roberto, Douglas and Vermalen will become GOATs next season

 

[blaugrana1987]

Tactically I don't see what to blame. Was a typical Barca performance away from home against 10 men behind the ball 3 days after a difficult CL game. Put a lot of pressure and lacked the sharpness in the final meters to create clear cut chances against a defensive wall. lol @ people going batshit crazy. You better get USED to this, juggernaut Barca is gone and even Pep lost in this stadium in his last season.

Here's hoping Lucho gets sacked next summer but the transfer ban remains. I will have lots of luls seeing the reactions on this forum and Twitter when de Boer, Koeman, Laudrup or whoever coaches the same squad which will age yet another year. I'm sure they will rule the world.

Ursegor, seriously, have you watched the game? Our players (esp midfield) has absolutely NO positional awareness. They can't have, they are playing every game with different teammates. There is absolutely no chemistry in this team and no body knows what to do and where to run in. We are completely static, just look at Bayern and Real playing. Constant movement, we don't have that. Without chemistry you can't have it. Without moving you can't win. Without a single cell in your brain you make your team play like this. He will continue with rotations and changing of formations on weekly basis, he already said thats his style. Well, maybe his style is fucking wrong. When every single manager with half of brain is NOT rotating players and formations like deck of cards, except Moyes and Lucho, then maybe he is fucking wrong?

Honestly this team of players look like its their first time playing together with every single match, its no coincidence. Thats what happens when you rotate like a madman.

 

[blaugrana1987]

Rijkaard was under lots of pressure early on. And managers have to start somewhere.

Well, Mourinho won CL with Porto. Sir Alex led Aberdeen to success. Carlo won fuckton with Milan, PL and French league. Guardiola won everything he could with us, and so he ended up in Bayern.

You see the pattern here? I hope you do...We are not training ground for coaches, we need best of the best. Pep happened once in a lifetime. It was a fluke that worked. You can't expect every manager to be Pepe and say "Give him time like Pep and Rijkaard got one..." as you can't expect every player to become Messi. Some just lack talent. Some lack talent and a brain it seems.

 

[Egert]

Luis Enrique: "I'm not unhappy with how the team played. We used the same system as we always do. We created many chances today."

 

[Ursegor]

You really think Lucho can't do better with this squad? The way the midfield is playing, not creating chances, and Messi having to do it all, that doesn't work. It's not that hard to see.
De boer, koeman laudrup aren't the names to replace him, anyway. They're as green as Lucho is.

Busquets doesn't create. Never has. Xavi's throughball and assists numbers have declined since at least 2012. He had 2 assists in La Liga last season. So he doesn't create much either. Leaves us with Rakitic and Iniesta with the latter in shaky form for well over a year now + coming back from injury at this moment and the former yet to prove himself. The midfield doesn't create because it isn't good enough, not because of tactics. Yes, I fully believe Lucho can't do better with this squad. No tactics will turn Xavi back into a chance creation machine at this point of his career. I can only blame Lucho for not making the necessary transfers but that's not only on him. The sporting director of this club has still not realized that the midfield is an even bigger issue than the central defense and judging by the reactions here neither have the fans who still believe Iniesta and Co. are still GOATs who are just being mismanaged.

 

[blaugrana1987]

I agree completely with the transfer window being bad, first of all. But I think with Lucho's squad, he can't do much better than he has already. He's rotating because he's trying to find a system that gets the best of our players, since, you know, they're not playing at their peak. Should he maybe stick with a formation/lineup for a few games? Maybe, but we don't see the training sessions, so we don't know what he sees. Our squad is very mediocre, with Messi, Neymar, our GKs, and maybe Pique the only players playing at a proper level. Suarez's game has dramatically decreased from last season, Iniesta hasn't recovered from injury yet, Busquets is in mediocre form, Alba can play better... There's only so much a coach can do, players need to realize that they need to improve their game. As for him saying Getafe is a strong team, what was he supposed to say, "oh yeah getafe suck my tactics are such crap"? He played practically the best lineup possible, his only logical sub was Munir, who he put in... The midfield didn't create anything because they're all not in great form, and so couldn't pick their way through ten defenders. Real are steamrolling through the league because Ancelotti found a system that works for him, in his second season, and all of their players are playing well. Last season it was Real who were sucking in the league and losing to random teams and Ancelotti experimenting with his lineup, it takes time for a coach to get their team playing well, especially given how ingrained our style and philosophy is.

As for me being an Arsenal fan, the vast majority of Arsenal fans want Wenger out the instant we lose a handful of games, I put faith in him not because I'm an Arsenal fan but because I generally put faith in managers, and I tend to be right, Ancelotti took a season to get Real going, Mourinho took a season to get Chelsea really going, Van Gaal hasn't been that much better than Moyes (he has been better, but the squad is also a whole lot better)... Managers don't have nearly as much to do with the team's success as people seem to think, a big part of it is the players and when they don't play particularly well you get games like today's.



There was the whole Invincibles thing, but whatever

You notice that Carlo needed a season to "get it going" but in that first won CL and CDR? Do you notice that while Mourinho needed a season he also fought for CL and the title till the end, but now he is cruising towards PL title? Do you notice that you haven't won a fucking thing in like 10 years? Yea yea...FA cup was great, you barely survived through that horror I can imagine being Arsenal fan and seeing my team unable to beat a team that just got back into Premiership. How can you support the guy who is so fucking cheap that he doesn't want to give money that club GIVES him so he can buy a freaking defender? When Arsenal fan says "Give him time", I like to think thats sign from God saying "Get him the fuck off"

 

[blaugrana1987]

Busquets doesn't create. Never has. Xavi's throughball and assists numbers have declined since at least 2012. He had 2 assists in La Liga last season. So he doesn't create much either. Leaves us with Rakitic and Iniesta with the latter in shaky form for well over a year now + coming back from injury at this moment and the former yet to prove himself. The midfield doesn't create because it isn't good enough, not because of tactics. Yes, I fully believe Lucho can't do better with this squad. No tactics will turn Xavi back into a chance creation machine at this point of his career. I can only blame Lucho for not making the necessary transfers but that's not only on him. The sporting director of this club has still not realized that the midfield is an even bigger issue than the central defense and judging by the reactions here neither have the fans who still believe Iniesta and Co. are still GOATs who are just being mismanaged.

And who bought Rakitic instead of better alternative in Kroos? Kroos is a winner of CL,WC and BL, Rakitic came after good season with Sevilla. Small club mentality right there. He had money to spend, yet he spent it wrongly. Again, he is to blame.

 

[Ursegor]

Ursegor, seriously, have you watched the game? Our players (esp midfield) has absolutely NO positional awareness. They can't have, they are playing every game with different teammates. There is absolutely no chemistry in this team and no body knows what to do and where to run in. We are completely static, just look at Bayern and Real playing. Constant movement, we don't have that. Without chemistry you can't have it. Without moving you can't win. Without a single cell in your brain you make your team play like this. He will continue with rotations and changing of formations on weekly basis, he already said thats his style. Well, maybe his style is fucking wrong. When every single manager with half of brain is NOT rotating players and formations like deck of cards, except Moyes and Lucho, then maybe he is fucking wrong?

Honestly this team of players look like its their first time playing together with every single match, its no coincidence. Thats what happens when you rotate like a madman.

Busquets-Xavi-Rakitic have played quite a lot together. I didn't see a chemistry problem. It's a quality problem. Busquets doesn't create, Xavi doesn't create and ideally should be in the MLS right now and not starting games for Barca when he turns 35 next month, Rakitic might not be good enough to begin with.

 

[Flavia]

Busquets doesn't create. Never has. Xavi's throughball and assists numbers have declined since at least 2012. He had 2 assists in La Liga last season. So he doesn't create much either. Leaves us with Rakitic and Iniesta with the latter in shaky form for well over a year now + coming back from injury at this moment and the former yet to prove himself. The midfield doesn't create because it isn't good enough, not because of tactics. Yes, I fully believe Lucho can't do better with this squad. No tactics will turn Xavi back into a chance creation machine at this point of his career. I can only blame Lucho for not making the necessary transfers but that's not only on him. The sporting director of this club has still not realized that the midfield is an even bigger issue than the central defense and judging by the reactions here neither have the fans who still believe Iniesta and Co. are still GOATs who are just being mismanaged.

He had Rafinha on the bench. And I think Lucho got it right with the 3-4-3, why not try it again? Wingers stretching, insteaf of the fbs. And he could try Masch-Rakitic-Rafinha. Xavi shouldn't had started the game. We do have a midfield problem, but I think that's getting highlighted by the tactics employed. It's not the best setup to get Messi and Suarez shining.

 

[dakt]

I wouldn't be surprised if we end up third this season. We still have 2 games against ATM so on these games alone we might lose 6 points...Yes, well..any trophy this season would be a mercial and I don't think Lucho is a miracle maker.

 

[blaugrana1987]

Busquets-Xavi-Rakitic have played quite a lot together. I didn't see a chemistry problem. It's a quality problem. Busquets doesn't create, Xavi doesn't create and ideally should be in the MLS right now and not starting games for Barca when he turns 35 next month, Rakitic might not be good enough to begin with.

Well Xavi is 35, he simply cant play good anymore. Iniesta was injured for 3 weeks, and he is also on decline. Bus is again, big mistake by Lucho since he shouldn't even play before Masch. Rakitic is yet again...(im getting bored) Luchos buy. Seriously, this is all on Lucho.

 

[Ursegor]

And who bought Rakitic instead of better alternative in Kroos? Kroos is a winner of WC and BL, Rakitic came after good season with Sevilla. Small club mentality right there. He had money to spend, yet he spent it wrongly. Again, he is to blame.

Yeah, as I said, you can blame him for the transfer window for sure.