Luis Enrique

[linetty]

Remember the game against Celta at home? The away game against Málaga? The away game against Getafe? The away game against La Real which was played right after Real Madrid's defeat against Valencia? The poor showings against Real Madrid and PSG away from home?

I already wrote that the 11-game winning streak is more down to Messi's and Neymar's phenomenal form than any genius from Lucho's hand.

Lucho is not good enough. The team won't win anything of worth with him. At most CdR but that's a minor title.

We saw his tactical genius once again today.

Get a grip. One defeat after 11 games won and you're already in a meltdown.

This is fucking ridiculous.

 

[Leo_Messi]

ok m8, everything was just Messi and Neymar

It was mostly down to those two. First and foremost Messi. Whenever the team has a bad day it's almost always due to Messi having a bad day as well.

Messi's and Neymar's form didn't just come out of the blue. The team setup changed after the Real Sociedad match and we played much better as a unit, to the benefit of our attackers.

He subbed on Rakitic at the 62nd minute (the only change that would actually work in our benefit). It's not like he waited late. 3-3-4 would not have made a difference. Malaga played to keep us on the wings and crossing in. They crowded the box. Us pushing Alba/Alves up as wingers would've led to even more retarded crosses. They chose the right setup to combat our style and also had the fortune of shitty refs and really poor individual performances (not to mention a gift from Alves). The loss was NOT down to Lucho 'not playing a 3-3-4' or 'subbing Pedro on earlier', changes that I really fail to see the supposed benefit of. At most, the only tactical thing I can fault Lucho for was playing Rafinha. The individual performances aren't down to him as well considering that we did play well early on but the players started collapsing individually one by one after their goal (except for Busi and Pique).

Can you really scrutinize the guy when the game would've been extremely different if not for variables that he can't control? You blast him for not making visionary in-match changes to completely counteract the forces of refs, luck, individuals, etc. and change the momentum of the match, a bit unrealistic no? I can't think of any manager in Europe right now who isn't struggling. Ancelotti just recently suffered his worst ever loss, Pep has had a series of poor results in the Buli and CL that make it questionable whether he can lead Bayern to any real success, Mourinho as well has not been one bit convincing recently. Lucho losing one match after 11 wins, albeit at home, against a team of brutally lucky cunts who picked the tactical setup that weakens us the most is not reason to discredit him for our recent successes.

Lucho himself claims that there has been no tactical changes since the defeat against Anoeta.

The team started to perform better due to our two most imminent individuals (Messi especially and Neymar) performing phenomenally. Not due to some revolutionary tactically changes from Lucho. Anyway my premise from the start was that the 11-game winning steak is not the real level of the team this season. I very much hope that I will be wrong but I doubt it.

There was close to no other options. Pushing Alves and Alba upfront as permanent wingers would have guaranteed a presence on the wings at least. There was zero room in front of the penalty box. A lucky deflection or a precise flat cross was the team's best option of scoring today. That or a free kick.

He should have subbed Pedro on right after the half-time. There was no need to wait. Rafinha was invincible. The team needed firepower up front.

You omitted the unexplainable substitution of Mascherano? What was he actually going to contribute with offensively speaking? He had Xavi on the bench.

No I blast him for not being good enough overall tactically speaking and for not being the right man. I am yet to see him change the course of game where the team is struggling.

Málaga were not lucky at all nor brutal. Gracia outclassed Lucho tactically (one again mind you) and unlike FCB they played with real desire and were committed to running their asses of. None of that was visible from Lucho's team despite FCB having much, much more to play for and despite playing at home.

Get a grip. One defeat after 11 games won and you're already in a meltdown.

This is fucking ridiculous.

I am not in a meltdown. Just pissed. I never believed that Lucho was the right choice but that's another discussion altogether.

The 11-winning game steak was in my opinion more down to Messi's brilliance, Neymar's great form and the momentum this created. Less so Lucho.

 

[linetty]

Yeah, the 11-winning game streak was down to Messi's brilliance but today's loss was all down on Lucho's ineptness. Makes sense!

Another game in 2 days. Let's wait till then to see if this mess today was only an accident.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Yeah, the 11-winning game streak was down to Messi's brilliance but today's loss was all down on Lucho's ineptness. Makes sense!

Another game in 2 days. Let's wait till then to see if this mess today was only an accident.

You did not read what I actually wrote did you? That 11-wining game steak was not down to Lucho. He played his role and adopted certain tactics that everyone had called for earlier.

My theory is that the winning steak was mostly created due to Messi's phenomenal form, Neymar's great form and the momentum this created.

Messi having his occasional (rare) off-day and the team not getting a favorable result are closely tied phenomenons.

 

[linetty]

You did not read what I actually wrote did you? That 11-wining game steak was not down to Lucho. He played his role and adopted certain tactics that everyone had called for earlier.

My theory is that the winning steak was mostly created due to Messi's phenomenal form, Neymar's great form and the momentum this created.

Messi having his occasional (rare) off-day and the team not getting a favorable result are closely tied phenomenons.

Your theory is fucked up then. Because as you said, he adopted certain tactics and they helped Messi to have such a great run which makes it all count as his fucking merit. It always have been like that. The coach at Barca gets absolutely no credit but it's not because he doesn't do a thing good but because the people are stupid. We'll win the CL game and you'll be the first to kiss his ass, I bet on it.

 

[serghei]

You did not read what I actually wrote did you? That 11-wining game steak was not down to Lucho. He played his role and adopted certain tactics that everyone had called for earlier.

Nah, Lucho is a tactical genius. So much of a genius that his tactics couldn't help us score a goal in 2 games against a team that lost 4-1 to Levante a week ago.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah, Lucho is a tactical genius. So much of a genius that his tactics couldn't help us score a goal in 2 games against a team that lost 4-1 to Levante a week ago.

Can you show me one person that called Lucho a 'tactical genius'?

Please dont revisit the same argument that you had an absolute nightmare in last week.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Your theory is fucked up then. Because as you said, he adopted certain tactics and they helped Messi to have such a great run which makes it all count as his fucking merit. It always have been like that. The coach at Barca gets absolutely no credit but it's not because he doesn't do a thing good but because the people are stupid. We'll win the CL game and you'll be the first to kiss his ass, I bet on it.

Why should I credit him for making a few tactical changes (that were obviously necessarily for anyone knowledgeable about football) this late? That's something that I expect from every single FCB manager. This is FC Barcelona. Arguably 1 of the 2 biggest clubs in the world. We fans (especially us socios) will not accept mediocrity. I am a demanding and passionate fan and I have never hidden that.

Once again learn the difference between what I see as the major factors of that 11-game winning steak and what I see as secondary factors that contributed to that run. Lucho is in the last bucket. Just to make it plain obvious for anyone that is in doubt.

Yes, and when he gets fired at the end of the season or only manages to win the CdR (after weeks long talk of the treble) you will be the first one to kiss my ass.

 

[linetty]

Nah, Lucho is a tactical genius. So much of a genius that his tactics couldn't help us score a goal in 2 games against a team that lost 4-1 to Levante a week ago.

I wonder what would you say if it was Tata instead of Lucho today? Didn't have enough resources, eh?

Everyone has a slip up from time to time and Lucho takes the blame on his shoulders. I'm sure he'll make most of it and only improve.

 

[serghei]

Can you show me one person that called Lucho a 'tactical genius'?

Please dont revisit the same argument that you had an absolute nightmare in last week.

No, let's revisit it. Last week I said motivation is everything. No motivation today, look what happened. If anything, today proved my point.

 

[Hamzah]

He had been getting his tactics right, but his plan today failed.

Overall though I think we are moving in a good direction.

 

[serghei]

I wonder what would you say if it was Tata instead of Lucho today? Didn't have enough resources, eh?

Tata Martino > Luis Enrique so far with no transfers and no summer prep. These are facts, whether you like them or not.

 

[serghei]

He had been getting his tactics right, but his plan today failed.

Overall though I think we are moving in a good direction.

Sure, 48 crosses. Great tactic.

 

[linetty]

Why should I credit him for making a few tactical changes (that were obviously necessarily for anyone knowledgeable about football) this late? That's something that I expect from every single FCB manager. This is FC Barcelona. Arguably 1 of the 2 biggest clubs in the world. We fans (especially us socios) will not accept mediocrity. I am a demanding and passionate fan and I have never hidden that.

Once again learn the difference between what I see as the major factors of that 11-game winning steak and what I see as secondary factors that contributed to that run. Lucho is in the last bucket. Just to make it plain obvious for anyone that is in doubt.

Yes, and when he gets fired at the end of the season or only manages to win the CdR (after weeks long talk of the treble) you will be the first one to kiss my ass.

I see where you're coming from but seriously on a day where Messi fucks up half of his passes nothing can be done. You can't give only a pinch of credit to Lucho for a winning streak that equaled the almighty Pep. I doubt you can win 11 games in a row solely due to individual brilliance especially when that 11 games consists 3 games against very well organized Atleti side.

 

[DinhoR10]

Messi wasn't his best but we've had games when he wasn't his best before and we still won, the entire team just lacked intensity. Everyone's dribbling was ineffective, creativity was lacking with exception to some moments from iniesta neymar and messi, but aside from Pique no one played well, everyone was cruising. Idk if it was everyone having their minds on the cl but we simply didn't show up.