xavi_the_Boss
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He turned the Team around from barely beating Leganes 2:1 to trashing PSG 6:1 in 2 weeks.
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DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Said it before, I'll say it again. Lucho is far better than the likes of Koeman or Valverde. I'd much rather have him if the club doesn't want to pursue a coach worth the position.
This moment is absolutely beautiful for the team, but I'm reminded of the comeback we made a few years ago against AC Milan. We went on to get 7-0'd by Bayern in the semi's and that time is now remembered as one of the worst in our recent history. That team was different and had much more glaring issues that were masked by a single performance. The sheer magnitude of today's comeback after intentionally pushing hard and preparing for the match shows that the team actually has an innate quality and could be good enough to win the CL. The key is work. It can't stop, and that is what Lucho needs to ensure. We are the favorite in probably every competition as of now due to the craziness of today's feat. We can't falter now and need to drive this home as they did in 14/15. This team is experienced to take on the challenge of the treble and this is an opportunity to grasp with both hands.
This moment is absolutely beautiful for the team, but I'm reminded of the comeback we made a few years ago against AC Milan. We went on to get 7-0'd by Bayern in the semi's and that time is now remembered as one of the worst in our recent history. That team was different and had much more glaring issues that were masked by a single performance. The sheer magnitude of today's comeback after intentionally pushing hard and preparing for the match shows that the team actually has an innate quality and could be good enough to win the CL. The key is work. It can't stop, and that is what Lucho needs to ensure. We are the favorite in probably every competition as of now due to the craziness of today's feat. We can't falter now and need to drive this home as they did in 14/15. This team is experienced to take on the challenge of the treble and this is an opportunity to grasp with both hands.
Mitchell1978
Senior Member
I think its the right decision for him to leave at the end of the season but he deserves respect for what he has done.
Devils
Senior Member
I know 95% of people (including me) were asking for Lucho's resignation a few weeks ago...but man the 3-4-3 is really something else! We play so well in that system.
Hopefully the next coach will build upon it and keep it going. Lucho bringing it forward doing wonders.
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What a legend!
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Hopefully the next coach will build upon it and keep it going. Lucho bringing it forward doing wonders.
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What a legend!
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Lelouch vi Britannia
Banned
There's really no point discussing this. He wants to leave so he should. No point in staying when he doesn't want to. He's earned his break honestly.
As far as we know, it's not even some crap that can be fixed or could have been avoided like him having issues with the board like Pep supposedly did. He just seems worn out. In which case there's nothing that can be done but to thank him for his contribution, respect his decision and move on.
Not only was that team worse than this one (despite the flaws that this one has), it also suffered from winning the league so early with no resistance. At this stage in the season there was no fight in that team as the league was already done. By the time the CL knockout rounds came around they hadn't played a game with real stakes for months. Combine that with our overall play that season being pretty crap to begin with and you get the disaster that was our 12/13 CL campaign. Now we're still fighting on all 3 fronts which will hopefully keep the team motivated.
Competition is a good thing.
Also in that season we peaked in November, now it seems we're just starting to hit our stride.
Plus there was a clear favorite for the CL that season in Bayern. This season... not really. It's most likely going to be one of the big 3 (FCB, FCB, RM) but everyone has their flaws. Hopefully we're able to take advantage of that unlike last season. We'll probably need some luck (and have already had some) to pull it off but I'll just consider that payback for 2012.
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BarcaOG
Banned
Phenomenal result--the consequence of apt managerial and tactical adjustments (even if these were brought about by a lot of pressure and poor results). In the end Lucho implemented the changes necessary for this, the most epic comeback in Champions League history.
Today more than ever I am happy to say I've supported Lucho from day one. While he isn't perfect, he's been DAMN good for us.
Today more than ever I am happy to say I've supported Lucho from day one. While he isn't perfect, he's been DAMN good for us.
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FlaFCB
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Hahaha. The pass map is insane as the game was.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Lol, the way we pinned them back.
No wonder the PSG players took so long to get out for the 2nd half. Had to change shorts.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
I was buying a story that Lucho is actually really bad tactician and that all bad things are up to him, and all good things in 2014/15 are up to MSN's individual brilliance and up to Xavi changing our formation.
I am currently insanely happy with this 343 and we are playing like prime Pep's, Rijkaard's or Van Gaal's Barca.
I see some posts already how this 343 is not up to Lucho, but that Busi and Iniesta invented it.
But, but, but...
A few questions:
If Xavi in 2014/15, and Iniesta+Busi in 2016/17 are so smart, why didn't they do this earlier?
Why Iniesta+Busi needed to wait 1 year of our horrible form to propose a new formation?
Also, if they are such a good tacticians, why didn't they help in Tito's season or especially during Tata's season?
They surely could have helped to a poor man Tata when we played like headless chickens in a spring of 2014.
I am not buying a story that Busi+Iniesta suddenly invented 343 and especially that transition from 343 in attack to 442 in defense with Neymar as a left winger, Rafinha as a right winger and Roberto as a RB (when he plays).
If Busi+Iniesta are so good, then it is a no-brainer: if Lucho goes away this summer, Iniesta+Busi alone should be good enough to coach our team since they are as genius as Pep on his prime.
I can't believe that Lucho didn't have anything with our current 343.
And this 343 is a formation which I would like to see in upcoming season, in at least 90% of matches against bad and midtable teams, and against top teams, if needed.
Football is evolving and changing all the time.
In the past 442 was the best formation ever.
Then coaches over years figured out that 451 with only 1 true striker offers way more.
Now when all teams are playing that way (with only 1 striker), maybe really a 4-men defense is not needed anymore (especially against a crappy 451 teams with only 1 attacker) and a riskier 343 could be the answer.
When teams will readjust their formations and find the ways to neutralize 343, we will move to some new formation.
Currently, in 2017, with a current state of football and with our current 343, our 343 is a way better fit then our 433.
Also, all of us whined how we have crap midfielders currently.
But now, I will change my opinion: we have bad midfielders for our 433. For example, Rakitic is horrible lately in 433, he is too isolated and alone in midfield and he can't run that much. But in 343, he is a God again.
Rakitic, Rafinha, Roberto, Arda, they all looked like average players in 433, but in 343, they look like goats.
A few weeks ago, I would have asked our board to sell all: Gomes, Denis, Rafinha, Roberto, Arda and even Rakitic.
But today: no way.
If we'll play 343, we will need at least 6 midfielders.
Iniesta needs to stay.
Busi also.
Raki is good enough for 343.
Rafinha is awesome (imo) in 343.
Roberto will be good in 343.
Denis and Gomes, we'll have to see how they will play in 343.
Arda can go...
So, from a midfield which was an utter crap in 433, we suddenly have 5-6 players who are awesome in 343.
I would still like to see someone like Verratti in a summer, but suddenly our midfield surely isn't a crap anymore.
The sad thing is also, this formation currently seems like a Goat formation.
Now, imagine getting a new coach in a summer, and that a new coach goes back to his own version of 433, or 442 or some other formation (and not 343).
That will be a total crap.
I would like to ask a board: dear board, whoever comes this summer, please, continue with this 343 and then if things won't go well, you can try some other formation after a few Months.
It would be a suicide to abandon this awesome 343 formation with that 343 combo in attack and 442 in defense.
I am currently insanely happy with this 343 and we are playing like prime Pep's, Rijkaard's or Van Gaal's Barca.
I see some posts already how this 343 is not up to Lucho, but that Busi and Iniesta invented it.
But, but, but...
A few questions:
If Xavi in 2014/15, and Iniesta+Busi in 2016/17 are so smart, why didn't they do this earlier?
Why Iniesta+Busi needed to wait 1 year of our horrible form to propose a new formation?
Also, if they are such a good tacticians, why didn't they help in Tito's season or especially during Tata's season?
They surely could have helped to a poor man Tata when we played like headless chickens in a spring of 2014.
I am not buying a story that Busi+Iniesta suddenly invented 343 and especially that transition from 343 in attack to 442 in defense with Neymar as a left winger, Rafinha as a right winger and Roberto as a RB (when he plays).
If Busi+Iniesta are so good, then it is a no-brainer: if Lucho goes away this summer, Iniesta+Busi alone should be good enough to coach our team since they are as genius as Pep on his prime.
I can't believe that Lucho didn't have anything with our current 343.
And this 343 is a formation which I would like to see in upcoming season, in at least 90% of matches against bad and midtable teams, and against top teams, if needed.
Football is evolving and changing all the time.
In the past 442 was the best formation ever.
Then coaches over years figured out that 451 with only 1 true striker offers way more.
Now when all teams are playing that way (with only 1 striker), maybe really a 4-men defense is not needed anymore (especially against a crappy 451 teams with only 1 attacker) and a riskier 343 could be the answer.
When teams will readjust their formations and find the ways to neutralize 343, we will move to some new formation.
Currently, in 2017, with a current state of football and with our current 343, our 343 is a way better fit then our 433.
Also, all of us whined how we have crap midfielders currently.
But now, I will change my opinion: we have bad midfielders for our 433. For example, Rakitic is horrible lately in 433, he is too isolated and alone in midfield and he can't run that much. But in 343, he is a God again.
Rakitic, Rafinha, Roberto, Arda, they all looked like average players in 433, but in 343, they look like goats.
A few weeks ago, I would have asked our board to sell all: Gomes, Denis, Rafinha, Roberto, Arda and even Rakitic.
But today: no way.
If we'll play 343, we will need at least 6 midfielders.
Iniesta needs to stay.
Busi also.
Raki is good enough for 343.
Rafinha is awesome (imo) in 343.
Roberto will be good in 343.
Denis and Gomes, we'll have to see how they will play in 343.
Arda can go...
So, from a midfield which was an utter crap in 433, we suddenly have 5-6 players who are awesome in 343.
I would still like to see someone like Verratti in a summer, but suddenly our midfield surely isn't a crap anymore.
The sad thing is also, this formation currently seems like a Goat formation.
Now, imagine getting a new coach in a summer, and that a new coach goes back to his own version of 433, or 442 or some other formation (and not 343).
That will be a total crap.
I would like to ask a board: dear board, whoever comes this summer, please, continue with this 343 and then if things won't go well, you can try some other formation after a few Months.
It would be a suicide to abandon this awesome 343 formation with that 343 combo in attack and 442 in defense.
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FlaFCB
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Because they are school boys. I don't know what kind of relationship they had with Tata. But with Tito there was his cancer, I doubt the players would try to say anything.
The improvement also came after Lucho said he was leaving. Lucho also took a lot of time until admitting his Gomes project wasn't working, and that the formation was bad... it's all weird.
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