Luis Suárez

[Joan]

I'd get drunk before half time..

I think the whole end product argument, still being one of the best in the world is crap, what's the use of that if he will rarely get into the position to deliver that "end product", his placement is also lacking, his runs are idiotic and slow and he will literally ruin 9 out of 10 balls coming his way when in/close to the opponent's area.

Simply untrue.

Does a man who 'rarely gets into the position to deliver' miss 4 clear-cut chances in 2 matches?

 

[Kuchi]

Simply untrue.

Does a man who 'rarely gets into the position to deliver' miss 4 clear-cut chances in 2 matches?

So Alaves & Valladolid ? He had 4 chances in 2 matches, one on Camp Nou against teams that will fight for relegation....that standard...

 

[Joan]

So Alaves & Valladolid ? He had 4 chances in 2 matches, one on Camp Nou against teams that will fight for relegation....that standard...

Nay. He missed 4 big chances according to stats in 2 matches. Against 2 parked buses. Doesn't mean he had 2 'chances'. lol

Now, I'm highlighting (some) good runs he made and chances he had vs. Valladolid. (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/9agpnj/comprehensive_video_review_valladolid_barcelona/)

https://streamable.com/1lx1m good run, poor control
https://streamable.com/s74zu good run once again
https://streamable.com/9w5ba again, following the action, making a good run and positioning himself well
https://streamable.com/kc4og run behind defence

As shown above, runs and positioning of his are not weak spot.

 

[henias]

Aye. With tons of examples. It's not the point. The point is that he's cheaply alluding Suarez' positioning has all of a sudden become a weakness. Basing it on a single highlighted run not made.

I wouldn't say it's his weak spot either but it's more of his physical limitations and decline that takes a toll on all that, which is not exactly a good thing either. On top of that, he havent effectively converted any of his shots.

 

[Joan]

I wouldn't say it's his weak spot either but it's more of his physical limitations and decline that takes a toll on all that, which is not exactly a good thing either. On top of that, he havent effectively converted any of his shots.

That's it. Had he converted some of his chances (there were many), he wouldn't be criticized this hard.

It's normal he's not going to make all sorts of crazy runs like a madman now he's lost some of his pace. Clear as day. But it remains his strong suit.

 

[Kuchi]

Nay. He missed 4 big chances according to stats in 2 matches. Against 2 parked buses. Doesn't mean he had 2 'chances'. lol

Now, I'm highlighting (some) good runs he made and chances he had vs. Valladolid. (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Barca/comments/9agpnj/comprehensive_video_review_valladolid_barcelona/)

https://streamable.com/1lx1m good run, poor control
https://streamable.com/s74zu good run once again
https://streamable.com/9w5ba again, following the action, making a good run and positioning himself well
https://streamable.com/kc4og run behind defence

As shown above, runs and positioning of his are not weak spot.

You impressed with any of those? Looking at the 1st and last, as he actually received the ball, his pace (and if not control with pace) sabotages him, defenders catch up or he reaches the ball late and is forced to make a low percentage finish (that Coutinho pass was nothing short of brilliant and he only got to it sliding, very easy for a keeper to close that, although Masip deserves the credit also).

What's the point in making runs that are tactically sound from time to time, but you can't really stop the ball, can't really control it or even reach it in time to actually finish it. And bigger teams wont allow that space, with them it's about close quarter control and a good 1st touch...those are definitely not good, never

 

[henias]

That's it. Had he converted some of his chances (there were many), he wouldn't be criticized this hard.

It's normal he's not going to make all sorts of crazy runs like a madman now he's lost some of his pace. Clear as day. But it remains his strong suit.

Well, if he did then credits to him but truth remains, he didnt.

Isnt providing much to the team, in terms of linkups or creating chances, just doing very minimal stuff, at most taking one or two shots.

I get people are still clinging on to the past Suarez and wishing he can make a comeback, but at this point, dont think there should be any excuses like "if only" he was in his past great form.

He's the one with the least contributions and to put it crudely, the worst player on the pitch compared to his counterparts. This shouldnt be the case especially when performing at top levels. Whether or not he has strong qualities, it just doesnt show now and it's ineffective.

 

[Joan]

Well, if he did then credits to him but truth remains, he didnt.

And he's heavily criticized for a reason.

I'm frustrated with his performances too.

You impressed with any of those? Looking at the 1st and last, as he actually received the ball, his pace (and if not control with pace) sabotages him, defenders catch up or he reaches the ball late and is forced to make a low percentage finish (that Coutinho pass was nothing short of brilliant and he only got to it sliding, very easy for a keeper to close that, although Masip deserves the credit also).

What's the point in making runs that are tactically sound from time to time, but you can't really stop the ball, can't really control it or even reach it in time to actually finish it. And bigger teams wont allow that space, with them it's about close quarter control and a good 1st touch...those are definitely not good, never

Whether I'm impressed with them or not is irrelevant here. He's making runs and getting into positions to shoot. Not as often as before, normally.

You named a few alarming issues yourself. (1) ball control (2) first touch (3) finishing etc. (usually) not positioning and making runs.

That's my only point here.

 

[George_Costanza]

Suarez can still give 2-3 more seasons if he works hard. He is only 31 but he lost pace because he is been lazy and too comfortable, unchallenged in starting role. He should hit the gym and focuses on resistance work to strengthen his core, do more cardio, swimming to condition his body, eat a calculated diet etc.

I do blame the lack of all that on way he is managed by our coach.

 

[FiReFTW]

Suarez can still give 2-3 more seasons if he works hard. He is only 31 but he lost pace because he is been lazy and too comfortable, unchallenged in starting role. He should hit the gym and focuses on resistance work to strengthen his core, do more cardio, swimming to condition his body, eat a calculated diet etc.

I do blame the lack of all that on way he is managed by our coach.

Do you seriously think he cares? Why should he work like a madman in a gym when he can eat cake and enjoy his millions that he gets at Barca.

 

[George_Costanza]

Do you seriously think he cares? Why should he work like a madman in a gym when he can eat cake and enjoy his millions that he gets at Barca.

If he was benched or sporting department hints he can be replaced then he will work hard! He is too comfortable now.

 

[clemente]

Its pointless to complain at this point, he is just bigger than the manager, never gonna get benched, and the manager is too much of a coward to disrupt the locker room I guess, which actually makes him a bad manager.

 

[FCB1987]

I'll be surprised if we make it to the knockout stage with Valverde, Suarez, Busquets, and Pique.

It'll be up to Dembele, Coutinho, and obviously Messi in particular to save us in the group phase or this could be just as embarrassing as Roma.

 

[DonAK]

Last away goal he scored in the CL was in 2015.

Step up please.

 

[Vilarrubi]

Last away goal he scored in the CL was in 2015.

Step up please.

That’s madness.