Malcom

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
I was thinking, If Malcom impresses and Dembele ends up being sold this summer would you guys rather spend the Dembele money towards De Ligt and De Jong and use Malcom as the Dembele replacement.

Or use the Dembele money on a Dembele replacement despite having Malcom? Right now I'm leaning on if Malcom becomes the real deal for us and a better fit than Dembele, I want to use the money if we sell Dembele on other areas of the squad such as the CB and CM spots.

I feel we are getting to a point that this probably whats going to happen. I say this because it seems Coutinho's future under Valverde will be our LW by the looks of it.

1-We seriously need to slow down with Malcom expectations, he had good 10 minutes vs Inter (and bad game before it against 3rd division team) and people are acting he has proved he is world class or something. I like him a lot, but we need to slow down with expectations and transfer discussions based on his performance. Hopefully he will prove himself great.

2-At the end of the day Dembele money will go to the transfer budget anyway, it won't be swap with anyone.we need many players. This team still need some serious retooling.

3-If we sell Dembele and Malcom looks solid, it won't change many things than current status anyway, the truth is we need an attacker, and probably someone who is good scorer, a guy who can make use of team playmaking abilities and nets 30+ goals a year. Suarez is currently that guy but he will be over 32 by summer.
Whether that player is a striker, or a winger or SS, it is still needed.

4- We still need CB and DM, Pique & Busquets aren't young anymore. De ligt and FDJ are legit candidates for those positions, though we need to be prepared with alternatives
 

Ronaldinho10

New member
1-We seriously need to slow down with Malcom expectations, he had good 10 minutes vs Inter (and bad game before it against 3rd division team) and people are acting he has proved he is world class or something. I like him a lot, but we need to slow down with expectations and transfer discussions based on his performance. Hopefully he will prove himself great.

2-At the end of the day Dembele money will go to the transfer budget anyway, it won't be swap with anyone.we need many players. This team still need some serious retooling.

3-If we sell Dembele and Malcom looks solid, it won't change many things than current status anyway, the truth is we need an attacker, and probably someone who is good scorer, a guy who can make use of team playmaking abilities and nets 30+ goals a year. Suarez is currently that guy but he will be over 32 by summer.
Whether that player is a striker, or a winger or SS, it is still needed.

4- We still need CB and DM, Pique & Busquets aren't young anymore. De ligt and FDJ are legit candidates for those positions, though we need to be prepared with alternatives

I agree give Malcolm more time to settle in the club and for christ sake give the lad full 90 minutes of play time before you make any decisions on this guy. As for that 3rd division game in the copa to be honest all the team played badly hard to pin it on a specific player even if Malcolm didn't shine. I still think with the right momentum and confidence Malcolm can prove he has talent but for that he needs game time..

The more urgent matter is as you stated Pique and Busi who are growing older and there is still no solid replacement for any of them. That should be raising a red flag much more then Malcolm.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Come on, khaled, are you surprised that players can't perform well in teams with no chemistry? It's a team sport no matter how much of a cliche this phrase is. When you don't know your teammates, combining with them in a productive way can be hard.

I've always said you can't form any opinion in games where you use experimental teams. You need to have a solid structure first in order to see the pieces performing very well.

So far, he was good in the Gamper, and good vs Inter when he had a cohesive team around him. 2 goals in about 70 mins.
 
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BBZ8800

Senior Member
id honestly try negotiate a swap with Chelsea, Dembele for Hazard as if were keeping EV it makes sense to buy already world class players. if thats not possible though, give Malcom a shot and sell Dembele to PSG/milk an EPL team, i still think he'll go for a decent price.

we also need a ST don't forget and selling Dembele we'd still need another winger

i don't see Dembele leaving though, atleast not this summer.. the board won't admit failure

I believe that rumors about selling Dembele last summer were true, and not just "an agenda" from papers who hate the poor guy.
About Dembele and Chelsea, I see no reason why would Chelsea want to buy Dembele.
You guys are still acting as if he is a real deal and as if other teams will fight for him.

The only clubs, imo, who could buy Dembele are:
1. Psg=because they are too rich, and because he is French (100+ Millions)
2. Liverpool=Klopp could be willing to buy him (100 Millions)
3. Arsenal=well, they suck. He is a perfect player for their level. Even though, he will struggle even there (some 70-80M deal)
4. Man utd=well, they suck and they need new "attempts" in attack (some 70-80M deal)

Imo, there is no way that someone from top tier clubs/champions like Real, Bayern, Juve, City or Chelsea would want to buy Dembele.
If we remove Barca's glasses, there is no way why would any sane big club want to buy him in this moment.
Wenger would probably want him. He is young, French, Wenger also has the naive and romantic mentality of this forum where "he is young and has potential" beats all other, more objective options.
This is why he hasn't won everything for 15 years. But hey, his team is always young and has potential for the future (on paper) :lol:
 

gasgas

Senior Member
I believe that rumors about selling Dembele last summer were true, and not just "an agenda" from papers who hate the poor guy.
About Dembele and Chelsea, I see no reason why would Chelsea want to buy Dembele.
You guys are still acting as if he is a real deal and as if other teams will fight for him.

The only clubs, imo, who could buy Dembele are:
1. Psg=because they are too rich, and because he is French (100+ Millions)
2. Liverpool=Klopp could be willing to buy him (100 Millions)
3. Arsenal=well, they suck. He is a perfect player for their level. Even though, he will struggle even there (some 70-80M deal)
4. Man utd=well, they suck and they need new "attempts" in attack (some 70-80M deal)

Imo, there is no way that someone from top tier clubs/champions like Real, Bayern, Juve, City or Chelsea would want to buy Dembele.
If we remove Barca's glasses, there is no way why would any sane big club want to buy him in this moment.
Wenger would probably want him. He is young, French, Wenger also has the naive and romantic mentality of this forum where "he is young and has potential" beats all other, more objective options.
This is why he hasn't won everything for 15 years. But hey, his team is always young and has potential for the future (on paper) :lol:

Wenger does not coach Arsenal anymore :rofl1:
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Come on, khaled, are you surprised that players can't perform well in teams with no chemistry? It's a team sport no matter how much of a cliche this phrase is. When you don't know your teammates, combining with them in a productive way can be hard.

I've always said you can't form any opinion in games where you use experimental teams. You need to have a solid structure first in order to see the pieces performing very well.

So far, he was good in the Gamper, and good vs Inter when he had a cohesive team around him. 2 goals in about 70 mins.

I am not surprised by anything there, I am saying we need to calm down a bit and don't go ahead of ourselves with expectations.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I am not surprised by anything there, I am saying we need to calm down a bit and don't go ahead of ourselves with expectations.


I'm not seeing people going overboard with it to be honest. It's mostly people saying he should get a lot more chances than he got so far. His time on the pitch after 3 months in the season almost is laughable. Complete disaster from the manager.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
I'm not seeing people going overboard with it to be honest. It's mostly people saying he should get a lot more chances than he got so far. His time on the pitch after 3 months in the season almost is laughable. Complete disaster from the manager.

Well, that wasn't the case with post I quoted.
And there is some going overboard with hype but that is normal to be fair
 

serghei

Senior Member
Well, that wasn't the case with post I quoted.
And there is some going overboard with hype but that is normal to be fair

I disagree. Dembele's performances haven't been that great as to make the idea of Malcom taking his place next season so improbable. Which is basically what [MENTION=19222]xXKonan[/MENTION] said.
 

serghei

Senior Member
With Coutinho injured, Dembele left out, Messi returning, he'll start tomorrow. As a LW?

Probably, if Messi is in the first 11. Unless Valverde is going to go defensive and use Vidal instead of Coutinho, with a Busi, Vidal, Rakitic and Arthur midfield.

If I don't see Rakitic tomorrow, then Ernie is one step closer to redemption.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
I believe that rumors about selling Dembele last summer were true, and not just "an agenda" from papers who hate the poor guy.
About Dembele and Chelsea, I see no reason why would Chelsea want to buy Dembele.
You guys are still acting as if he is a real deal and as if other teams will fight for him.

The only clubs, imo, who could buy Dembele are:
1. Psg=because they are too rich, and because he is French (100+ Millions)
2. Liverpool=Klopp could be willing to buy him (100 Millions)
3. Arsenal=well, they suck. He is a perfect player for their level. Even though, he will struggle even there (some 70-80M deal)
4. Man utd=well, they suck and they need new "attempts" in attack (some 70-80M deal)

Imo, there is no way that someone from top tier clubs/champions like Real, Bayern, Juve, City or Chelsea would want to buy Dembele.
If we remove Barca's glasses, there is no way why would any sane big club want to buy him in this moment.
Wenger would probably want him. He is young, French, Wenger also has the naive and romantic mentality of this forum where "he is young and has potential" beats all other, more objective options.
This is why he hasn't won everything for 15 years. But hey, his team is always young and has potential for the future (on paper) :lol:

Chelsea will likely need a Hazard replacement, they've been linked with that Bayer guy Bailey so its not that outlandish for them to buy Dembele

1. agreed
2. Liverpool wouldn't spend 100mil
3. Arsenal wouldn't spend 100mil or even 80mil
4. United have Martial who, at this stage, is performing better than Dembele

just because he didn't make it at Barca (many players struggled and still went on to have a decent career) doesn't mean hes lacking potential or that other clubs won't give him a shot.

I believe the Dembele situation is 30% EV, 70% Dembeles attitude, the big move came too early for him. i remember a Dortmund fan on here said he'd be trouble just by looking at the way he went awol to get his transfer.. sadly he was right
 

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