Joan
Well-known member
I completely forgot about Marlon. One (if not both) of Mina and Marlon will surely leave.
Rumors are Lyon's offering 30m for Mina.
Malcom
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I completely forgot about Marlon. One (if not both) of Mina and Marlon will surely leave.
Rumors are Lyon's offering 30m for Mina.
that's a good point... how the hell were man city able to run rampant throughout the epl last season whilst fielding the likes of aguero, sterling, sane, silva and de bruyne when these aren't physical players? it seems like pep understands something that this manager doesn't
God Serena
New member
Well this came out of nowhere, didn't it? Yesterday when I went in to work he was going to sign for Roma and now he's signing for us? 
Good transfer.
Good transfer.
Yeah, I agree, nothing is only black or only white. If we are comparing this Barça to Pep's era, I think we are worse technically and physically. The players from back then (Messi, Busquets, Pique, Iniesta) are years older, Xavi ran 12-13kms, Suarez is 30+ and definitely slower/runs less than Villa/Pedro, etc. Technically our midfield will probably never again be on that Xaviesta level. In my opinion, our problems are multidimensional, not just physical or technical. And while every club has good transfers and bad transfers, considering value for money, we really have made some terrible deals (I won't name names). Those bad deals combining with our best players declining/retiring... and we are where we are.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
He spent a billion and has the most expensive team.
We talked about that.
For la liga and epl, against minor teams, possession and technique is the way to go.
In a CL, that is not good enough.
Pep won 0 Cls in 5 attempts after Barca's days.
Anyway, ANY formation CAN win you trophies.
But lately, Spain, Barca and Pep aren't good at World cups, Euros and in a Cl.
While they were winning everything till 2012.
Opponents have evolved since then.
Pep, Barca and Spain won 1 big tournanent out of 14 attempts after 2012 (Champions league, World cup, Euros).
What is even worse, those teams reached a final only once in last 14 attempts (Barca 2015).
Compare that to Pep, Barca, Spain from 2008-2012.
So, something has changed.
Marlon will leave, of course
Since when?
Icarium
Lifestealer
That Spain team and Barca team was really good with Xavi and Iniesta at prime. Whatever City and current barca has no where is nowhere close to that. Only team which comes even barely close is the Madrid which dominated Europe in last 5 years. You need a good midfield to do well in Europe. Neither barca nor city have that imo. Pep spent half a billion at city because his team was old, especially the defense. He is adding lot of depth to attack to compete on all fronts. But they still need a good midfielder to compete for CL.
Xavi and Iniesta have changed. But to say that City cant possibly win against big teams or the CL without some tall donkey up front is abit much. City played brilliantly against top teams last season and who knows how they'll do this season. There is no incoming donkey at City nor at Barca.
but the teams you cited (psg, chelsea, bayern) haven't won a thing either. how is it real madrid who are the only club dominating? are ronaldo, asensio, benzema, isco, etc. great attackers who provide great defensive effort like a mandzukic? does kroos press like kante or is he a fairly static player? is marcelo not a defensive liability? casemiro and modric are the only real runners in that midfielder and yet they've dominated the cl for 3 straight seasons
what is it that real are doing that barca need to adopt, because obviously the style of play that you want barca to adopt ("physique and technique") hasn't worked out well for psg (knocked out of ucl in round 16 yearly), chelsea (humiliated by barca), bayern (outclassed by real madrid for two straight seasons), athletico (crashed out in the group stages and consistently beaten by real whenever they match up)
and man city who are the closest thing to barca as far as player profile made it farther in the ucl than all those teams last season and will probably do so again this year.
BADGERBHOY
Senior Member
I cant believe it, this board is making what seems like another good deal.
Not only is he far younger than Willian, but he's much cheaper with lower wages too.
What a relief it is not to waste so much money on an overrated EPL oldie.
Now concentrate on getting some of the deadwood sold, after that get Thiago, then its game on for the new season.
Not only is he far younger than Willian, but he's much cheaper with lower wages too.
What a relief it is not to waste so much money on an overrated EPL oldie.
Now concentrate on getting some of the deadwood sold, after that get Thiago, then its game on for the new season.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
When Messi drops to cm or cdm to get the ball and leaves his cf position.
People think that he is doing that due to a poor midfield, but imo, that's his current "thing".
He wants to be involved and touch the ball all the time. Create/pass/score, yet without too much off the ball movement and running.
He will drop deep forever.
So, if you play Dembele-Messi-Malcom, there is a high chance of having no one in the box too often due to Messi's current style, with 2 wingers close to a touchline.
And when Messi gets the ball, he will be surrounded by 4 defenders who have no one else to mark.
Which can lead to extreme lethalness.
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