BBZ8800
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Why would any big club buy Malcom?
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Why would any big club buy Malcom?
jairzinho
Senior Member
Hope he does well there.
A typical question from typical fans. Chelsea sold Salah for next to nothing. Guess how much he’s worth now.
A typical question from typical fans. Chelsea sold Salah for next to nothing. Guess how much he’s worth now.
Never_Forget40
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Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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He will probably tear that league to shreds. 40m only. What a pity.
serghei
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Tier 1 no, Tier 2 (Tottenham, Dortmund, Roma, Inter, Arsenal etc.) probably.
At Barcelona he can be a very useful hardworking squad player. I have a hard time understand how is that not great considering we didn't pay 100m. for him.
FinBarcelonafan
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I guess this means Suarez will be a starter.
I don't understand why he would go to Russia. Bad move from him.
I don't understand why he would go to Russia. Bad move from him.
Never_Forget40
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Would be fit perfect in Dortmund. I am living there and the all the Dortmund Fans would love to see him here.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
If a big club makes a mistake here and there, that doesn't mean that other 90% of players who are not good enough and who failed=will now turn into good players due to a Salah's example.
Look, 6 Months ago, people would probably reply the same about Denis:
He is not good for Barca, but he could be a starter, at let's say Arsenal, Napoli or Roma.
What we know today: a guy was the worst player even at Arsenal.
So, what do we know in 2019:
1. Denis is among the worst players in Barca's rooster
2. but Denis is also among the worst players even in Arsenal's rooster
Or Halilovic:
1. he is not good for Barca
2. but he will be good in midtable teams:
A few years later:
1. he can't play for midtable teams
2. he can't even play as a starter in a Belgian league
Regarding Malcom, maybe he could succeed at Dortmund, since even Dembele was a key player there and Jovic looked like an ultimate striker.
Regarding Arsenal and Tottenham, imo, no way.
Roma, Inter, maybe... 50:50 chances.
FinBarcelonafan
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D. Suarez was a good player for Villarreal. He lost.his mojo but by no means terrible player. He was on the bench for too long.
MTL_Barca
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Not every player that's "not good enough" for Barca is equally bad so these comparisons don't make much sense, Malcom isn't Halilovic. Malcom already played good in france, you can now go ahead and call that a farmers league or whatever but it's not like we talk about 2nd division or Croatian league here.
It's hypothetical anyway but i mean just look at the squads of even Arsenal, Napoli, Dortmund etc and there will be a lot of players that would be absolutely useless for Barca, so you can't really argue just based on that.
It's hypothetical anyway but i mean just look at the squads of even Arsenal, Napoli, Dortmund etc and there will be a lot of players that would be absolutely useless for Barca, so you can't really argue just based on that.
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EdmondDantes
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If I were him, I wouldn't go to Russia. He's good enough to play in Spain, Italy, England.
Never_Forget40
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You cant be bad if you destroyed Real Madrid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36d04pThtoA 
Arizona Scott
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Because they can turn him into the next Salah
Salah is way pacer and trickier than Malcom--not event he same level even when Salah was at Roma. I think Malcom would be better served in France or Serie A--he has ordinary pace and below average physicality for the EPL, and didn't exactly flourish in the La Liga matches he got. Tearing up Russia would not be bad for him and he would get CL opps there. We are not talking about a standout in any of Brazil's U23 or U20 NT either--not that this is the easiest national teams from youth to regular to show yourself as an attacker. Not only does he not look like a Neymar talent, but I wouldn't put him with Richarlson, Firmino, Junior, Jesus, Coutinho level, and 3 of those are younger. Even the same age nobody Everton was clearly picked over him.
I am not saying it is hopeless for him to have a role for a world club power--but it far more unlikely than likely. Id like to get our fee back and move on.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
I have never said that every player who is not good enough for Barca will be a crap in all other teams.
But on the other hand, users here are repeating the same mistake OVER and OVER.
If Dembele sucks here and if we sell him, people will reply:
He will end as a new De Bruyne or Salah under a better coach.
If we sell Malcom, people will reply:
He will probably shine and end as a new De Bruyne or Salah under a better coach.
If we sell Alena, lol, people will reply:
He will probably revive his career and play better under a better coach.
So, we have 2-3 examples like Salah who weren't recognized by their clubs.
And then around 90% of players who sucked in their clubs and sucked in every other club later in their career, for a reason.
Yet, people are mentioning Salah and De Bruyne in every example, like currently with Malcom or Alena.
So, not every player will end as Salah. In fact, 1 out of 20, or 1 out of 50 will end that way.
It is way more likely that a player will end as Halilovic, Bojan, Denis.
Or, the most likely: a player will end as a midtable team player eventually.
About Malcom at Bordeaux:
1. he played at a midtable team
2. and he was a key player of that team
When a team is built around a player, he can often perform way better because a team is playing on his strengths.
Remember, when Halilovic was at Dinamo Zagreb, a club was built that way so that Halilovic could look awesome and so that you could see only his good strengths.
When he came to bigger clubs, those clubs weren't interested in building their tactics around Halil. So, he was exposed.
Not to mention that the opponents in bigger clubs were way better.
Or remember Alexis Sanchez.
When he played in BOTH:
1. a smaller club (like Udinese)
2. and when a team was built around him
= he looked awesome.
He was a key player, he was allowed to do whatever he wants. And there was no pressure in terms of results. Plus, the opponents sucked.
Not to mention that he was full of confidence because:
1. he was always a secured starter
2. he was a key player
3. a coach and all teammates had faith in him and they were passing every ball to him (just like Malcom at Bordeaux)
Or, when he played for Chile: the same=he was a key player.
But then, when you put Alexis in Barca's team where he will never be a key man and where he is the 5th most important player=he is lost. He is not a key man. He is not allowed to do whatever he wants. A team is not playing on his strengths. The opponents are better. A huge pressure is on his shoulders, fans need good displays and titles right away.
He is not a starter, he is losing confidence.
A different league, a different style of play.
So, this is why I don't rate Malcom's season at Bordeaux or Dembele's season at Dortmund as much as you do.
Those circumstances are a totally different universe and they don't have too much similarities with Barca: with our pressure, with our team, with our pecking order, with our possession play etc.
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