Manchester United

Iniesta Ultra

Senior Member
They don't have the squad quality to be anywhere near the top four, as has been proved the last two seasons - there's loads of better squads in the league. Their attacking options are horrendous.

They were rubbish even when they had few injuries.

Stop talking bollocks and pushing this myth. It's delusional and only makes their situation worse to lie to them.

Obi, Diallo, Zirkzee, motivated Rashford, Bruno when disciplined, Yoro, De Ligt, Maz are well clear of Hojlund, Garna, Maguire who got all the minutes with the aforementioned if fielded played out of position.

Your venom's your clouded bias.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
What I am saying is that if Milan had the advantage of playing in La Liga or especially the Premier League, with the financial and popularity advantages those league confer, I don't think they'd have declined so rapidly. I think they could be as good as City and Liverpool, or at least Arsenal or Newcastle.

Whereas United are an absolute fucking basket case. Harsh to group Milan with those cunts.
Italian clubs learnt how to do smart business from these years being broke. They will be the next target for big money eventually after space in the Prem runs out and when that happens they will likely begin to rival the Prem again.

English football was really only ever 'number 1' because of huge financial advantage, which they haven't really made great use of. Spanish teams are slowly building back up also. It may be that the top three this season includes no English club.

We will see, a lot of this is political wrt financial regulations of the respective leagues, and EPL is one that attracted big money simply because it was always very lax. Spain and Germany are very strict, France is less so, and big money is beginning to flow in there, Italy tightened up after the plusvalenza scandals.

LaLiga will be the last to receive big investment simply because of the league's financial rules. They are so harsh that no wealthy entity wants to invest in small teams there because it doesn't matter how much money they have. Only what the club makes is allowed to be spent.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Obi, Diallo, Zirkzee, motivated Rashford, Bruno when disciplined, Yoro, De Ligt, Maz are well clear of Hojlund, Garna, Maguire who got all the minutes with the aforementioned if fielded played out of position.

Your venom's your clouded bias.
Nah you are just clueless, as always. Thinking De Ligt, Mazraoui, Zirzkee, Yoro etc get a team into top four is delusional as fuck. If it is true why has it not happened? They've been regulars all season.

For instance 'Obi' has played for five minutes and now he's already better than their other players, in your eyes.

Easy to claim bias but if they were any good I'd freely admit it. Even a lot of their own fans admit their squad is shite.

Go be scared of a microwave 'peanut gallery'. I am always proved right on these cunts and the table does not lie.

Who are they replacing in the top four, exactly?

As for 'motivated Rashford' that happens once ever five years. Relying on the small parts of his career instead of his overwhelming poorness is laughable, and endemic of the problems they have.

Also, 'Bruno when disciplined' is like saying 'Rooney when handsome'. It never happens.
 
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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Obi, Diallo, Zirkzee, motivated Rashford, Bruno when disciplined, Yoro, De Ligt, Maz are well clear of Hojlund, Garna, Maguire who got all the minutes with the aforementioned if fielded played out of position.

Your venom's your clouded bias.
They kicked out Rashford sadly and have been giving Hojlund and Garnacho all the minutes.

Stupid choices too.

They do have some good players but its not a top6 quality squad for the moment unless they bring in a top manager.
 

Porque

Senior Member
The EU trading block should have created a Super league to compete financially with the EPL.

Sadly you got shrubgubbs like Theebs clinging to authority and doing everything in his might to deter logical progression.
 

Iniesta Ultra

Senior Member
Amorim's playing musical chairs with all the players changing positions almost every match except for the worst striker in England. PL is also shit this year so top four doesn't mean much.

Mara well zapped I know, most are.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Yeah PL is garbage and United are 14th...yet you are claiming they have really good players...

Everything over the last decade points to me being right and you talking bollocks. At some point people have to admit the players are poor - it is the elephant in the room. They make terrible mistakes constantly on the pitch.

I think I am just gonna put you on block. You are an awful poster.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Nah you are just clueless, as always. Thinking De Ligt, Mazraoui, Zirzkee, Yoro etc get a team into top four is delusional as fuck. If it is true why has it not happened? They'be been regulars all season.

For instance 'Obi' has played for five minutes and now he's already better than their other players, in your eyes.

Easy to claim bias but if they were any good I'd freely admit it. Even a lot of their own fans admit their squad is shite.

Go be scared of a microwave 'peanut gallery'. I am always proved right on these cunts and the table does not lie.

Who are they replacing in the top four, exactly?

As for 'motivated Rashford' that happens once ever five years. Relying on the small parts of his career instead of his overwhelmng poorness is laughable, and endemic of the problems they have.

Also, 'Bruno when disciplined' is like saying 'Rooney when handsome'. It never happens.
There are some good players at United but they are massively held back by some players far below the level of the club.

Hojlund, Garnacho, Zirkzee, aged Lindelof, Dalot, Casemiro etc should be nowhere near a top4 club at this point. A few of them would not start in relegation teams.

Hojlund in particular is one of the worst center-forwards I've ever seen starting for a Prem team fullstop let alone for a team as big as United. I can't believe they still start him. It is shocking they didn't see the need to sign a much better striker. You can find better strikers in the Championship (maybe even L1).
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
There are some good players at United but they are massively held back by some players far below the level of the club.

Hojlund, Garnacho, Zirkzee, aged Lindelof, Dalot, Casemiro etc should be nowhere near a top4 club at this point. A few of them would not start in relegation teams.

Hojlund in particular is one of the worst center-forwards I've ever seen starting for a Prem team fullstop let alone for a team as big as United. I can't believe they still start him. It is shocking they didn't see the need to sign a much better striker. You can find better strikers in League 1.
Agree on Hojlund (I called him out from day one, proved right again) and the others you mentioned. Why 'aged Lindelof' too, he's always been useless.

I genuinely don't think they have many good players. I think people think some of their players are good BECAUSE they play for Man United, and they assume they MUST have some good players.

The only player I think you can argue is a high quality player is Fernandes, and even he has his flaws. Amad too but he has a lot to prove. I honestly don't rate any of the others. You'd probably call Garnacho, Martinez, Ugarte 'good players' but I strongly disagree.

There's a reason they are 14th. People can dance around the issues all they like, but ultimately it comes down to poor players and a mediocre coach.
 

Maradona37

Well-known member
Also, many of their own fans think their squad is poor and they have few good players. It's not just me saying it, their own fans are starting to come around. And normally they are biased as fuck, but they are so so bad that some of them refuse to lie to themselves anymore.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Agree on Hojlund (I called him out from day one, proved right again) and the others you mentioned. Why 'aged Lindelof' too, he's always been useless.

I genuinely don't think they have many good players. I think people think some of their players are good BECAUSE they play for Man United, and they assume they MUST have some good players.

The only player I think you can argue is a high quality player is Fernandes, and even he has his flaws. Amad too but he has a lot to prove. I honestly don't rate any of the others. You'd probably call Garnacho, Martinez, Ugarte 'good players' but I strongly disagree.

There's a reason they are 14th. People can dance around the issues all the like, but ultimately it comes down to poor players and a mediocre coach.
I think their backline is okay and I think Bruno and Diallo are great players. Mazraoui and De Ligt are decent too.

But its not a top6 team for sure. Garnacho I think has a lot to improve on and was overhyped far too soon. Seems like he is invisible most of the time sans popping up with a great goal once in a while.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Agree on Hojlund (I called him out from day one, proved right again) and the others you mentioned. Why 'aged Lindelof' too, he's always been useless.

I genuinely don't think they have many good players. I think people think some of their players are good BECAUSE they play for Man United, and they assume they MUST have some good players.

The only player I think you can argue is a high quality player is Fernandes, and even he has his flaws. Amad too but he has a lot to prove. I honestly don't rate any of the others. You'd probably call Garnacho, Martinez, Ugarte 'good players' but I strongly disagree.

There's a reason they are 14th. People can dance around the issues all they like, but ultimately it comes down to poor players and a mediocre coach.
I also said when the signing was made he is nowhere near good enough. I watched Atalanta that season.

They didn't rate him so highly in Italy. He was okay but he wasn't phenomenal, many of his goals were scrappy or flukey and there is a reason they accepted the bid immediately.

If they thought he would get better they would have held onto him and let him develop into the world class striker he was claimed to be when coming to United.
 

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