Manchester United

[te amo barca]

It's not fair to blame Moyes at all, the team is shit and doesn't have MU level players. I actually feel sorry for him, it's like everything is broken after SAF and here comes Moyes and all the shit goes to him, give the man some time

 

[footyfan]

United have been over-achieving since 2009, in part due to Ferguson and inertia and in part due to their rivals being in transition.

They haven't had a truly good team since that night in Rome.

 

[Jenks]

Judge him after 3 seasons.

You wish

 

[oggydude]

The worrying thing for us Man Utd fans isn't how bad we are doing with Moyes as we all expected a shaky start and the injury list has been horrendous, but how well Everton are doing without Moyes, they look like a much better side and are only 7 points of the top in 5th spot at 38 points. Evertons last 5 season point average with Moyes has been 59.4, whereas this season half way through they were on 37 points, predicting them likely to get 74 points which is way higher than what they ever got with Moyes. They replaced Moyes with Martinez a good manager but his previous team Wigan were just relegated in his last season so whilst a good manager he is not exceptional to cause such a big increase in performance, it's more likely than Moyes was holding Everton down as well.

 

[pEllee]

Very selective. You also fail to mention that Everton have strengthened their team. They added Gareth Bary on loan, a very underrated player, they finally have a good striker at the club in Lukaku (loan), they added James McCarthy, Deulofeu on loan and also, Barkley has developed into a very good player. Basically, their best signings have all been on loan.

Many young players that have taken the next step in their development, which is normal. It's a better team now but to suggest that Moyes was holding them back is a questionable statement.

 

[Martindn]

It's a better team now but to suggest that Moyes was holding them back is a questionable statement.

Especially when you consider they was relegation battlers when he first was appointed. You could say his tactics held them back, but apart from that the job he did at Goodison was outstanding. The problem always was if he could make the step up along with the added pressure and the signs are not great - so far.

 

[Jenks]

You'd struggle to find many Everton fans who don't think he held Barkley back.

 

[Martindn]

"Man United already proposed renewal, several clubs have approached him. He wants to finish the season at United and then we'll see."

Nemanja Vidic's agent has told Italian radio that the player will wait until the end of this season to decide his future.

Disappointed, really really am, if hes talking about our form as reason to consider future. I mean this is our captain if he can enjoy the good times of bumper contracts and cup wins then he can fight in the rough times to get us out of it, not fuck off when it gets a little harder. If they have that attitude i dont care who the player is, chuck him out.

 

[darthvader7888]

It's not fair to blame Moyes at all, the team is shit and doesn't have MU level players. I actually feel sorry for him, it's like everything is broken after SAF and here comes Moyes and all the shit goes to him, give the man some time

Again, it's Moyes' fault (at least partially) for doing fuck all during the transfer window.

Moyes needs to be given time. Sacking him now would be too much.

Judge him after 3 seasons.

3?



If he doesn't improve significantly, I'd sack him at the end of the season. I'd give him one more season at most.

 

[Jenks]

I would be shocked if United sacked him at the end of the season. It's just not how they operate. He'll get next season at the very least.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

Again, it's Moyes' fault (at least partially) for doing fuck all during the transfer window.

It's easy to say that, but who could he have gotten? I really doubt they just sat there going, "Let's wait for Fabregas and Thiago to respond to our emails," they probably were asking potential targets and apparently no one wanted to go to United. The screw-up with Herrera wasn't Moyes's fault, if he was on the team United would be doing a lot better. And out of their quality players Rooney, RVP, Carrick, Jones, and Rafael have all been injured, and Kagawa and Chicharito have both been inconsistent. Two seasons at least, probably three before we start making any judgement.

 

[darthvader7888]

It's easy to say that, but who could he have gotten? I really doubt they just sat there going, "Let's wait for Fabregas and Thiago to respond to our emails," they probably were asking potential targets and apparently no one wanted to go to United. The screw-up with Herrera wasn't Moyes's fault, if he was on the team United would be doing a lot better. Not to mention Rooney, RVP, Carrick, Jones, and Rafael have all been injured, and Kagawa and Chicharito have both been inconsistent. Two seasons at least, probably three before we start making any judgement.

I agree that the fuck up with Herrera wasn't his fault, but he shouldn't have spent all summer uselessly chasing Fabregas. Also, he needed to try to get more than just a midfielder.

 

[Martindn]

0.0

 

[Galning]

Dear god.

 

[footyfan]

Atleast there's a second leg.