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veryfatchocobo
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....... I knew this was going to happen. I had to leave when Kagawa got subbed off....
DonAndres
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Wow.... 6 games in 2014, 4 losses, and knocked out by Sunderland. United fans must really be on edge right now, the club have some serious patience to stick with Moyes the way this season has gone. Title winners to probably the worst performing "big" club in England.
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Well I don't think it's really Moyes's fault, RVP's rarely played this season, same with Rooney, and Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, Giggs, and Evra are all a year older, which for players their age does actually have a pretty big impact. And out of the players who have played, only De Gea and Januzaj have really been consistently good, everyone else has been above average at best to downright poor. Also they probably knew at the start of last season that Ferguson was going to retire, so they wanted to see him off with a title and were super-motivated to win, whereas now for the first time in their United careers they have a new manager and a completely new backroom staff, and that will take a while to adapt to, and likewise it will take a while for the coach to adapt to his players. And the competition is a lot stronger this season, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Sunderland (
), Southampton, and Everton (as well as others probably) have all improved since last season. Moyes's transfer decisions in the summer were questionable to say the least, and his persistent selection of Welbeck over Kagawa is quite confusing, but I think firing him would be ridiculous.
), Southampton, and Everton (as well as others probably) have all improved since last season. Moyes's transfer decisions in the summer were questionable to say the least, and his persistent selection of Welbeck over Kagawa is quite confusing, but I think firing him would be ridiculous.
S7_MUFC
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United dropped down to 4th place in the Delliotte Football Money League.....lack of Champions league qualification could hurt us big time but I don't Understand how psg earn just 20-30 million euros less than us and how city are so far ahead of likes of chelsea and arsenal despite going out at group stage of champions league......What does it mean for Financial Fair Play? Chelsea are surely missing a trick here to balance the book by inflating their income or are City and PSG bending the rules?
veryfatchocobo
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Uh I kinda disagree. Everytime Kagawa was playing CAM, they were in ok shape. When he wasn't, they weren't very convincing. Even today, they were up for 60 minutes with Kagawa actually the only player to hog the CAM role, then bam Kagawa off. Valencia going on was definitely a great decision. He just picked the wrong player....... He should've taken off one of the strikers -- Welbeck or Chicharito (IMO it should've been Chicharito as we was starting to get leggy) -- and play 2 wide players for defense instead of playing with a striker to defend. Kagawa was the heart of that final third as well as Januzaj. Do you see Martino putting Messi on the bench at 1-0 after 60 minutes to preserve a lead? Hell no!!! In fact, we try to make that score 2-0! I didn't watch the game after Kagawa left since I had to go somewhere, but I bet you Sunderland had way more chances in that final 15-20 minutes because Man U lost all offensive pressure which led to the De Gea jitters.Well I don't think it's really Moyes's fault, RVP's rarely played this season, same with Rooney, and Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, Giggs, and Evra are all a year older, which for players their age does actually have a pretty big impact. And out of the players who have played, only De Gea and Januzaj have really been consistently good, everyone else has been above average at best to downright poor. Also they probably knew at the start of last season that Ferguson was going to retire, so they wanted to see him off with a title and were super-motivated to win, whereas now for the first time in their United careers they have a new manager and a completely new backroom staff, and that will take a while to adapt to, and likewise it will take a while for the coach to adapt to his players. And the competition is a lot stronger this season, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Sunderland (
I'm not saying Kagawa is the cure to Manchester's woes, in fact I massively overhype him. But when there's an obvious correlation between Kagawa at CAM and positive results without Rooney these past 9001 games, there's obviously something wrong going on. And the only person that chooses the roles of each player is Moyes. So what I'm saying is Moyes is really at fault here. He has this knack to defend leads instead of playing until the end of 90 minutes even at Everton. I don't get it..... Why am I emotionally invested in the travesty that is Manchester United this year? I'm not even a Man U fan..........
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Anyways... let's say I can understand why many people still put TS ahead of Dante regarding last season. I see Dante slightly ahead, but then I'm also a tad biased.
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Ryu Hayabusa
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Haha, Moyes present in Gladbach to see how football is meant to be played.
He heard Kroos' renewal talks had been put on hold
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linetty
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I laughed when I saw Moyes' annoying face in the stands 
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