Ini8
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That's not true. First of all, he was out for around three weeks. http://www.transfermarkt.com/marc-bartra/verletzungen/spieler/99922
Second of all, Adriano at CB was Tito's experiment, not Pep's.
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Second of all, Adriano at CB was Tito's experiment, not Pep's.
JamDav1982
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That injury came at a time when Barta was exclusively being used in B team and missing 4 games means next to nothing and he was available for at least another 50 first team games.
I can remember Pep using Adriano at CB as well.
BBZ8800
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In Pep's last Season 2011-12, Bartra was actually 21 and a half aged (at the end of a Season).
He was old enough to be used.
But again, Pep decided not to use him too much.
Busquets, for example, was aged 20 and in that Season he played 24 matches under Pep.
So, from this or that reason, Pep also decided not to push/play Bartra, but he had faith in some other young players.
So, we could say that Pep, Tito (+Roura), Tata and Luis Enrique all used him not too much.
spark
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Yes Pep did use him there first.
Even today, that has got to be the single most embarrassing fuck up by our defense in the past several years against a complete garbage team, getting scored on by an even worse forward. And who do you think the duo playing CB were? Pique and Bartra? Lol.
It isn't fair to count Pep as one of the managers that didn't favor Bartra Pique because, for one, Puyol was still on the roster AND playing, and Mascherano was as well (Hell, even Yaya), not to mention Bartra was still behind Muniesa and Fontas (Look at them now compared to Bartra, though) on the B team. It's also not fair to look at Tito not favoring Bartra, again, because Tito, and Roura, were idiots. We saw more Pique/Song than Pique/Bartra and that continued even as Song knocked the ball into his own net in confusion. Hard to say it's Bartra's fault the coach had no idea what he was doing. Which brings us to Tata, who is really the only coach who we can truly say didn't favor the partnership. Tata, who won nothing, lost the locker room, and left with his head hung low.
Why Lucho doesn't use Bartra more often is up in the air right now, but using past managers as an excuse seriously holds no weight at all.
JamDav1982
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Basically cant make any sense of what you are trying to say.
All managers who didnt play Barta are idiots?
You guys also have to remember that playing a youngster at CB is different than playing a youngster in midfield or attack, the chances that mistakes lead to career defining moments are that much higher, look at the Bale goal that every time he does something good commentators feel obligated to say that hes so good why do people hold that against him blah blah (Hudson did it today).
What are you guys even arguing anyway? That Bartra is good enough for the team? Cause thats already a fact.
What are you guys even arguing anyway? That Bartra is good enough for the team? Cause thats already a fact.
No, Tito was for playing Song as CB instead of Bartra. Unless you have solid points to explain why Song was the better option.
Ini8
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And it took him some time to find his rhythm again, as I said. He looked more than ready during the preseason to the 2012/13 season, contrary to the season before. Tito didn't trust young players as Pep did IMO.
Not according to the official website: http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/adriano-a-player-for-many-positions
"Signed in order to strengthen the squad on the left-hand side of the pitch (left back, left midfield and left wing), Adriano Correia has shown his versatility by occupying three more positions since he joined Barça in the summer of 2010: right back, right wing and central defender. Against Real Madrid last Sunday he played in the heart of the Barça defence for the first time and acquitted himself very well."
JamDav1982
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No idea why he did that but its more evidence of how four consecutive managers have not had much trust in Barta.
JamDav1982
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You are really clutching at straws using a 3 week injury in October for a reason Pep never played Bartra more.
Three weeks is probably far below the average time missed in a season and it was nothing major.
I think Adriano played CB under Pep, may be wrong will have a look.
And I'm saying that your "Four managers" argument means jack shit because of that. Notice Song isn't even at the club anymore? If he's such a better CB why isn't Bartra the one at West Ham?
JamDav1982
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Song isnt a better CB than Bartra. But the fact the club gave him so many chances there ahead of Barta and then still didnt give Barta much games after Song left tells its own story.
They tried to find a new CB but fucked up with Song.... and still didnt turn to Barta.
It does mean something if four coaches have not fancied him and tried to find other players before turning to him.
Ini8
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You have to remember that Pep had a knack of converting CDMs to CBs which made it harder for Bartra, since we had a ton of midfielders at the time, but I feel he would've got his chance eventually with Pep.
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