Marquinhos

[Raed]

If Marquinhos joins Barcelona, Perez is sending him the next Shakira. The boy seems legit though.

 

[0n0mat0p0eia]

A piece from Julian De Martinis when asked if Marco will go to Barca:

"Well, first of all, I want to preface this by saying what I did in a different thread: Roma have no reason to sell him. He's on year one of a four or five year deal (I forget at the moment; believe it was 4 year initially but Roma are on the verge of giving him a raise and an additional year), and the club's project means that Marquinhos, Pjanic, and Destro are the building blocks. The whole point of what Sabatini did the past two years was to find talents like those three; to sell them means we're the next Udinese, while the management has made it very clear that they want us to be the next Barcelona.

So, all that being said, let's still say hypothetically he moves to Barca. You have to understand one thing: he's 18. This is his first season playing in Europe and he's only played 20 Serie A games. Ever. He's never played in a European competition; never in a match where a trophy was on the line. Roma this season has been an ideal setting: there's massive pressure, to be sure, but no trophies on the line.

In short, I can't say for sure he isn't a one-season wonder, or that he'll flop whenever trophies are on the line.

I can say that, from what I've seen, which is every match he's played in, he looks far, far more likely to me to become a widely known and respected world-class CB than anything else. His positioning is usually phenomenal; he reads the game better than almost any other defender we've had since Juan was great; he knows when to tackle, when to chase, and how to use his athleticism in the rare cases that someone does get past him. He's bailed out our defense more times than I can count in those 20 games.

Will he stay like that forever? Will he still be that good next season? I suspect yes, but the sample size is really small right now. I think moving to Barca this summer would be a massive mistake after merely one year in Europe; the jump to a club that's consistently in the hunt for a treble is just too high, and I think many players ruin their careers and stunt their growth by moving to big sides where they just rot on the bench.

I mean, look at Nuri Sahin; was his Madrid move really worth it? He's back where he started now with a year less of starting football. More money is always nice but so is always playing (I know Barca need CBs, so this might not apply exactly to Marquinhos, but the jist is the same: big clubs come with a lot more responsibility and squad rotation in general)."

Thanks for this. I didnt know a lot about the lad; you've given me food for thought.

 

[FCBarca]

Thanks for that share, that was a very insightful take

 

[Cule4life]

We make Bartra warm the bench and then think of shelling out 20m for a 18 year old defender when what we need is an experienced defender who can lead our defence. Just when i thought our transfer policy could not get any worse. I would really like to know who advises Zubi to pursue these stupid transfers

 

[FCBarca]

We make Bartra warm the bench and then think of shelling out 20m for a 18 year old defender when what we need is an experienced defender who can lead our defence. Just when i thought our transfer policy could not get any worse. I would really like to know who advises Zubi to pursue these stupid transfers

Adriano
Alexis
Alba
Afellay
Song
Cesc
Villa
Mascherano

Nearly all bought at below market fees...Get a grip

 

[Deco 20]

Adriano
Alexis
Alba
Afellay
Song
Cesc
Villa
Mascherano

Nearly all bought at below market fees...Get a grip

Adriano - 10-14 million
Alexis - 30+ million
Alba - 14 million (cheap)
Afellay - 4 million (cheap)
Song - 20 million
Cesc - 35 million
Villa - 40 million
Mascherano - 24 million

 

[Barcaman]

Henry was better player for us than Villa.

Henry 24 - Villa 40 mil.

Alba and Ibi were the only ones who were cheap. For others we payed realistic market prices or more.

 

[FCBarca]

Alexis was offered considerably more to go to City...Whatever price was fair for Cesc in the open market, we benefited in that he only wanted to come to Barcelona - dramatically altering Arsenal's negotiating position in terms of how much they could get for him...Same could be said for Mascherano...Villa shouldn't actually be in the list as he was a Laporta/Txiki signing

 

[Barcaman]

Sorry, didn't notice it was about Txiki-Zubi.
I concede that at the time of purchase Cesc and Alexis did look like good pieces of business.

 

[Raed]

Henry was better player for us than Villa.

Henry 24 - Villa 40 mil.

Alba and Ibi were the only ones who were cheap. For others we payed realistic market prices or more.

Henry's first season pales in comparison to Villa's fist season. Henry hit his stride in the second season under Pep but that was without a doubt the best team Barcelona ever fielded. But for Villa to do it all over again was truly remarkable.

 

[FCBarca]

Yeah, I think people forget Titi was not very good that first season...A bit Alexis like really...And he faded from form a bit quicker than Villa may

 

[Indignado]

Henry was better player for us than Villa.

Henry 24 - Villa 40 mil.

Alba and Ibi were the only ones who were cheap. For others we payed realistic market prices or more.

I think Song and Cesc were quite cheap, too.

 

[Indignado]

Adriano
Alexis
Alba
Afellay
Song
Cesc
Villa
Mascherano

Nearly all bought at below market fees...Get a grip

It's not about the price we paid, but the players we got. It's absolutely obvious that Song wasn't overpriced, but it's also a fact that we needed a CB instead of another midfielder.

 

[Deco 20]

We could've gotten Beñat or Cazorla for what we paid for Song

 

[DonAndres]

We could've gotten Beñat or Cazorla for what we paid for Song

Benat's best use would be as a deep lying playmaker (could be useful for bus-parking teams) but I'd rather him stay at Betis or go to a club where he is a true starter in midfield and not just with us to rot the bench. He's underrated and has great talent so I wouldn't want to see that wasted at some huge club that wouldn't appreciate him.