Mateo Kovačić

Ini8

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Busi would by no means be a disaster for United. He is much better than Carrick and would improve their midfield considerably.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Busquets would start in any team of the world ,Chelsea and Manu already made an offer b4 his renewal .he would be dream addition for any team .and would start over Mascherano in any team

I don't want to go offtopic now, but after the world cup, everyone were saying that Masch is the best Dmc in the world.
While Busi is also awesome, neutral fans probably think that Masch is a better Dmc.

My point was, a player who is in general a weaker player can be a better player for a specific team (there are probably better examples than Masch and Busi).
The same with Pogba and Kovacic or some other players.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
Those fans don't understand. Sergio is a better dm than masch. People prefer masch because they see him make tackles, but a dm most important job is blocking off angles hich is what sergio is better at.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I think Mascherano's WC performance got overrated quite a lot. That last ditch tackle vs Belgium(?) got people on the hype train. Not saying he didn't have a good WC or that he isn't a WC DM, but how people were saying he better than Messi and how he should be the starter over Busi like most people did was just OTT IMO.
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
Completely different types of DM guys. Can't compare, on his day busi will have more impact than masch ever did but still sometimes those tackles and his destruction of attacks is really crucial and masch is one of the best for doing just that. His world cup performances are not overrated, he completely deserves the praise. He was the main reason why argentina became defensive power. Even in the final germany didn't create much chances and we could even say argentina had more clear chances. Masch did absolutely splendid in the world cup, that is his peak imo. For barca and many other teams busi would be the best choice but for some teams masch is the right choice.

Masch can play even if he put up against players like feallaini and witsell harassing him continuously. I think busi is the better DM overall but busi has his weakness, we dominate possession and he doesn't show much of it. But place him in team like chelsea who have to sit back and accept pressure busi wouldn't be that crucial but masch will be crucial then.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Completely different types of DM guys. Can't compare, on his day busi will have more impact than masch ever did but still sometimes those tackles and his destruction of attacks is really crucial and masch is one of the best for doing just that. His world cup performances are not overrated, he completely deserves the praise. He was the main reason why argentina became defensive power. Even in the final germany didn't create much chances and we could even say argentina had more clear chances. Masch did absolutely splendid in the world cup, that is his peak imo. For barca and many other teams busi would be the best choice but for some teams masch is the right choice.

Busquets won't need to do that tackles because he will put himself in a better place from the start .It is like a GK who you feel he never make gr8 save and shot always comes to him .he isn't lucky he is just positioned well
And He was horrible against Germany ,huge part of dm role is to get the ball from the defense to other midfield players .Mascherano was unable to do that and he was one of the main reasons Germany was able to press Argentina ,many times Argentinian defenders had to make a long pass b/c Mascherano either not there or gave them the ball back .This isn't 2008 anymore .a DM has to be able to play the ball and distribute it under pressure

I don't want to go offtopic now, but after the world cup, everyone were saying that Masch is the best Dmc in the world.
While Busi is also awesome, neutral fans probably think that Masch is a better Dmc.

My point was, a player who is in general a weaker player can be a better player for a specific team (there are probably better examples than Masch and Busi).
The same with Pogba and Kovacic or some other players.

I understand the whole concept of system ,and that is one of the main reasons I want Pogba ,I said it earlier that people tend to believe the report that he is Bartomeu election propaganda and forget that reports early b4 elections called said that Lucho wants him .he is perfect for LM role in Lucho system .If he is what Lucho wants then we should fight to get him and no Kovacic comprises .if he want someone else we should go for him and forget about Pogba .it is as simple as that
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
Busquets won't need to do that tackles because he will put himself in a better place from the start .It is like a GK who you feel he never make gr8 save and shot always comes to him .he isn't lucky he is just positioned well
And He was horrible against Germany ,huge part of dm role is to get the ball from the defense to other midfield players .Mascherano was unable to do that and he was one of the main reasons Germany was able to press Argentina ,many times Argentinian defenders had to make a long pass b/c Mascherano either not there or gave them the ball back .This isn't 2008 anymore .a DM has to be able to play the ball and distribute it under pressure

So what are you saying? Busi is the better DM overall? Yeah even i am saying that. I am saying he is incredible in destructing opposition attacks and tackling and has some serious muscle to compete with any type of striker or attacking midfielder of any size. Now place busi instead of masch in argentina team... i seriously don't think busi would have the same impact. They could be exposed if they try to play possession football without being organized and i think masch is better at organizing while busi is better at distributing... two different styles of defending both can be very effective.

Anyway my point busi is not the better DM than masch in every setup, in setups masch is the better choice. In most of teams busi would be the best DM and overall also busi is better than masch.

And about the bold part, if opponent is barca he can not be everywhere. Only way you stop teams like barca is being a thug and hacking opposition players. Busi can never do that.
 
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anguy

New member
I think Mascherano's WC performance got overrated quite a lot. That last ditch tackle vs Belgium(?) got people on the hype train. Not saying he didn't have a good WC or that he isn't a WC DM, but how people were saying he better than Messi and how he should be the starter over Busi like most people did was just OTT IMO.

Let Busqets play as CB for a few years (it was a disaster when Pep tried it, I know) and then see how he'll be able to adapt for DM position. People are saying Masch is not Barca type DM, but it's pretty amazing he can play DM on such high level after being CB only for so long... There are almost no other players able to do it. Song, Busq were horrible as CBs, Ramos the same when Ancelotti moved him to DM.

I believe if Mascherano was moved to DM for more than few games in row, he'd be able to relace Busq just fine - even in Barca system.
 
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Flavia

Guest
Let Busqets play as CB for a few years (it was a disaster when Pep tried it, I know) and then see how he'll be able to adapt for DM position. People are saying Masch is not Barca type DM, but it's pretty amazing he can play DM on such high level after being CB only for so long... There are almost no other players able to do it. Song, Busq were horrible as CBs, Ramos the same when Ancelotti moved him to DM.

I believe if Mascherano was moved to DM for more than few games in row, he'd be able to relace Busq just fine - even in Barca system.
He wouldn't. They are very different players. Amazing that people still underrate Busquets so much.
 

Alik

Moderator
I'm a big Mascherano fan and I think that as DMs they suit different teams. I don't think that Busquets would be a better DM than Mascherano in every single team.
I believe if Mascherano was moved to DM for more than few games in row, he'd be able to relace Busq just fine - even in Barca system.

It would be a change of game-style. He definitely would not be able to replicate what Busquets does for us, whether that is in a few games or in a lifetime.



Busquets has a unique talent and skill that is very well developed. Like Jombi posted, some people study his every move in hopes of being able to play that way.
 

bastardo

Member
Look here at people who study Busquets for a living :D

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I recalled once that rooney said football is more tiring mentally than physically. It really highlights how different professional players are compared to us amateurs.
 

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