Mateo Kovačić

BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
For those who haven't followed him much last Season:

Look at the assists for the 1st and the 2nd goal :worthy:

If we will buy Gerson, I seriously hope that he is more talented/suited for us or something...
 
G

Gasgas

Guest
BBZ8800 said:
Imo, Kovacic would except a bench role here.
About other points, Rafinha and Samper, you are somewhat right.

But then again, why are we trying to buy Pogba, and a new Pogba (Gerson)?

I want to say, if we don't need new midfielders, then ok, we shouldn't buy Kovacic, Pogba or new Pogba-Gerson.
But if we want to buy some new midfielders, than Kova is the most logical option.
He fits the best our system and he is not expensive, nor have high wages.

Pogba costs 85 M (transfer fee), 12 M wages, 15 M image rights.
Gerson, the new Pogba, who the hell is Gerson, and if we will pay 15-20 Millions for extremely unproven young Brasilian, then we should have bought much more proven Kova (especially since Modric and Rakitic, his Croatian teammates, played and are suited really well for Real and Barca in the recent years).

User Maxy started a joke about how we need to buy one Brasilian each Season and one Arsenal's player.
In the beginning it sounded like a joke, but now I am really concerned.

Why Pogba, why Gerson, for example?



Ok, but if we will buy a fu**ing Pogba for 100 Millions then (even though we have enough of midfielders), I will walk to Barca if needed and kick Barto's ass :lol:
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as it stands we don't need pogba and we don't need kovacic
 
DonAK

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
We won't sign Kovacic. He's probably more hyped than even Pogba on this forum.
 
BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
DonAK said:
We won't sign Kovacic. He's probably more hyped than even Pogba on this forum.
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We won't sign Kovacic, but we will maybe sign Pogba.

If you see the problem..?

-- so the answer for Kovacic is:
= he is not proven yet
= we have enough of midfielders like Rakitic, Iniesta, Turan, Rafinha, Samper, Roberto

But then, the inconsistency steps in.
Pogba?
= MAYBE we will buy him
= in spite of an insane transfer fee, wages and image rights and a question how would he fit with our team
= also, we don't need Kovacic because we would kill the development of our young players
= when it comes to Pogba, that logic doesn't apply, it seems
-- we don't care about young players, in that case...

The same about Gerson
-- so, we don't need Kovacic, because we have enough of midfielders, especially young midfielders
-- but then, we are open to a possibility of signing Pogba, and even a new-Pogba Gerson

There is not too much logic here, if you think about it, Don ;)

The only logic is that if the board thinks that Pogba and a new Pogba are the two best players in the world.
And that every big club will need at least one "Pogba" in the future :D
 
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Trickykid

Trickykid

Active member
BBZ8800 said:
Imo, Kovacic would except a bench role here.
About other points, Rafinha and Samper, you are somewhat right.

But then again, why are we trying to buy Pogba, and a new Pogba (Gerson)?

I want to say, if we don't need new midfielders, then ok, we shouldn't buy Kovacic, Pogba or new Pogba-Gerson.
But if we want to buy some new midfielders, than Kova is the most logical option.
He fits the best our system and he is not expensive, nor have high wages.

Pogba costs 85 M (transfer fee), 12 M wages, 15 M image rights.
Gerson, the new Pogba, who the hell is Gerson, and if we will pay 15-20 Millions for extremely unproven young Brasilian, then we should have bought much more proven Kova (especially since Modric and Rakitic, his Croatian teammates, played and are suited really well for Real and Barca in the recent years).

User Maxy started a joke about how we need to buy one Brasilian each Season and one Arsenal's player.
In the beginning it sounded like a joke, but now I am really concerned.

Why Pogba, why Gerson, for example?



Ok, but if we will buy a fu**ing Pogba for 100 Millions then (even though we have enough of midfielders), I will walk to Barca if needed and kick Barto's ass :lol:
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Honestly, neither you, I or my neighbors dog know if he'd accept a bench role here.
But yeah, in principle I agree with you, as he'd look like a good fit, IF we were in the market for a new, young midfielder. Considering these persistant Gerson rumors, it would appear so, but I'm guessing it's more of Barto and his shady cronies's doing than that of Lucho. I'm partial to the reports about him only wanting Alexis and Arda, so I'm guessing all these Gerson and Pogba rumors have roots in non-sporting related agendas.

If this Kovacic is even half as good as you guys claim, I wonder why he's not been bought by another ChL contender yet, though.
 
Chainsaw

Chainsaw

Killahead
Trickykid said:
If this Kovacic is even half as good as you guys claim, I wonder why he's not been bought by another ChL contender yet, though.
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That must have something to do with Inter not wanting to sell him cheap and also his and in general the team's inconsistent performance in the past years.
 
BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Trickykid said:
If this Kovacic is even half as good as you guys claim, I wonder why he's not been bought by another ChL contender yet, though.
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I am from Croatia, like Bojan and a lot of other posters.
I am not biased (or not too much, I hope) towards Croatian players, because I am trashing Halilovic since always, and I am giving him 1% chances with us.

So, I want to say, it is not: Kova is from my country, let's hype him.
I really do believe that he has Barca's DNA and that he would fit well.
I have been watching him regularly (since he is from my country) in Dinamo Zagreb, Croatian NT team, Inter (the same as Halilovic in Dinamo, Croatia, Barca B).

And Kova just looks like a guy who has just came from La Masia.
It was said in the past, he is very modest, he never causes any problems on or off the field (something like Xavi and Iniesta).
He has a very high footballing IQ, a good vision, good passes, he is very fast and often dribbles through a 3-4 opponent's midfielders before giving a deadly through ball to one of Fcs.

Negative things?
Well he is hot and cold (because he is very young).
He has a lot of potential, but he needs to take the control of matches even more often. He needs to say: I am the boss, take the ball and do good things much more often than today.
But that can improve with age and with coaches/confidence etc.
Also, he is not a regular NT starter. Rakitic and Modric are there, and when those 3 are on the field, something isn't working properly.

Why he wasn't sold?
Well, true, he is not a new Messi.
But he has a potential to easily be a new Rakitic or Modric. He is better than those guys in his age.

Liverpool and Juventus wanted to buy him this summer.

But also, the same analogy could be used with any player, like:
= if Pogba is so good that we should pay 85 Millions transfer fee+15 M for image rights+12 M for wages, then why is it that none of the other rich teams hasn't bought him, like Real, Psg, Man. City, Man. Utd, Chelsea, Bayern etc? (People will reply: he is interested only in the biggest teams, but... who knows what is true?)
-- but there isn't too much interest for him anymore, isn't it?
Furter, if Gerson is that good, then why again only Juve, Roma and us wanted him (if you get my point?)
-- why aren't Real, Bayern, Chelsea or Psg after him? I mean, they all wanted Pogba. If this guy is a new Pogba, everybody would like to get him for 18M, isn't it?

So, this argument (why nobody bought him then?) can be used on almost every player.
The answers are:
= his team asks too much
= buyers are not yet 100% sure whether he is THE man

Anyway, what bothers me is:
-- ok, Pogba is Pogba, he is on a different level and I understand why we would like to sign him

But I don't understand Gerson vs Kovacic logic:
= our board is not willing to risk with Kovacic who is a much more proven player with 2 years at Inter and with a lot of matches in NT team
= he is young, and we have anough of La Masia midfielders waiting
-- ok, fair answer

But why on Earth are we then buying Gerson?
-- 18 Millions, and it will probably be 20-ish Millions in the end with some additional fees and incentives
-- the guy is absolutely unproven, and yet, as others said, he is not even looking that good on Youtube videos, where all players look like Messi

So, what bothers me:
-- Kova is not worth the risk, and he would ruin the development of our young players
-- but a 20-Million unproven Gerson is worth the risk in money, and in possible ruining of our La Masia potentials who won't get minutes because of him...
 
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Trickykid

Trickykid

Active member
BBZ8800 said:
I am from Croatia, like Bojan and a lot of other posters.
I am not biased (or not too much, I hope) towards Croatian players, because I am trashing Halilovic since always, and I am giving him 1% chances with us.

So, I want to say, it is not: Kova is from my country, let's hype him.
I really do believe that he has Barca's DNA and that he would fit well.
I have been watching him regularly (since he is from my country) in Dinamo Zagreb, Croatian NT team, Inter (the same as Halilovic in Dinamo, Croatia, Barca B).

And Kova just looks like a guy who has just came from La Masia.
It was said in the past, he is very modest, he never causes any problems on or off the field (something like Xavi and Iniesta).
He has a very high footballing IQ, a good vision, good passes, he is very fast and often dribbles through a 3-4 opponent's midfielders before giving a deadly through ball to one of Fcs.

Negative things?
Well he is hot and cold (because he is very young).
He has a lot of potential, but he needs to take the control of matches even more often. He needs to say: I am the boss, take the ball and do good things much more often than today.
But that can improve with age and with coaches/confidence etc.
Also, he is not a regular NT starter. Rakitic and Modric are there, and when those 3 are on the field, something isn't working properly.

Why he wasn't sold?
Well, true, he is not a new Messi.
But he has a potential to easily be a new Rakitic or Modric. He is better than those guys in his age.

Liverpool and Juventus wanted to buy him this summer.

But also, the same analogy could be used with any player, like:
= if Pogba is so good that we should pay 85 Millions transfer fee+15 M for image rights+12 M for wages, then why is it that none of the other rich teams hasn't bought him, like Real, Psg, Man. City, Man. Utd, Chelsea, Bayern etc? (People will reply: he is interested only in the biggest teams, but... who knows what is true?)
-- but there isn't too much interest for him anymore, isn't it?
Furter, if Gerson is that good, then why again only Juve, Roma and us wanted him (if you get my point?)
-- why aren't Real, Bayern, Chelsea or Psg after him? I mean, they all wanted Pogba. If this guy is a new Pogba, everybody would like to get him for 18M, isn't it?

So, this argument (why nobody bought him then?) can be used on almost every player.
The answers are:
= his team asks too much
= buyers are not yet 100% sure whether he is THE man

Anyway, what bothers me is:
-- ok, Pogba is Pogba, he is on a different level and I understand why we would like to sign him

But I don't understand Gerson vs Kovacic logic:
= our board is not willing to risk with Kovacic who is a much more proven player with 2 years at Inter and with a lot of matches in NT team
= he is young, and we have anough of La Masia midfielders waiting
-- ok, fair answer

But why on Earth are we then buying Gerson?
-- 18 Millions, and it will probably be 20-ish Millions in the end with some additional fees and incentives
-- the guy is absolutely unproven, and yet, as others said, he is not even looking that good on Youtube videos, where all players look like Messi

So, what bothers me:
-- Kova is not worth the risk, and he would ruin the development of our young players
-- but a 20-Million unproven Gerson is worth the risk in money, and in possible ruining of our La Masia potentials who won't get minutes because of him...
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Thanks for the write-up on Kovacic, I don't know him that well.

There's really no need for yet another Pogba/Gerson tirade, though. As I've already stated a few times, I don't even want a new midfielder, let alone Pogba or Gerson. The reasons for why we'd want them is fairly obvious, as I see it. Gerson is because of our shady dealings in Brazil and Pogba would be Barto's new shiny galactico toy, he could prance around and show off to the footballing world. Great player, though, no doubt.
 
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