Matthijs de Ligt

FCBfan22

Senior Member
hmm i guess that means Umtiti will be leaving. i heard a rumour Juve wanted him, United also linked. if we can get 60mil+ for him to cover most of De Ligts fee, Barto deserves a damn medal

so hyped for next season. get the treble in the bag, EV stays on 1 more year and we move for ten Hag/Koeman after the Euros

I think Umtiti will stay, because De Ligt is a RCB. This probably means Todibo going on loan until Pique's retirement (unless he becomes Busi's backup).

If he comes, we will go into next season with the best CB quartet Barca has ever had. Ernie will need to learn how to rotate them.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
I think Umtiti will stay, because De Ligt is a RCB. This probably means Todibo going on loan until Pique's retirement (unless he becomes Busi's backup).

If he comes, we will go into next season with the best CB quartet Barca has ever had. Ernie will need to learn how to rotate them.

The best CB quartet anyone has ever had. I sincerely doubt that any team ever had 4 world class defenders the same time. And the best of all is that only one of those 3 is "old".
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Papa Barto i've been a good boy this year....

Yes, many of us stopped criticize him long ago. He has learned from his mistakes and we should give credit where credit is due.

Some here think we personally hate people like Barto or Valverde which is not true at all. The day EV change his ways and become a better manager, we will all praise him too. I just don't think he will change though :lol:
 

Newcomer

New member
Yes, many of us stopped criticize him long ago. He has learned from his mistakes and we should give credit where credit is due.

Some here think we personally hate people like Barto or Valverde which is not true at all. The day EV change his ways and become a better manager, we will all praise him too. I just don't think he will change though :lol:

He is very criticized here but i remember being here in the chat during Real Madrid - Barça game. The third one on that week, i think.

I was very much impressed by the defensive perfomance and discipline of Barcelona and made them my favorites to win CL due to that factor.

Messi/Suarez can score at any moment and you are just not conceding a lot.

Maybe his playstyle is not enjoyable but if he ends up winning the CL, he would have to be credited, at least for his pragmatism.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Buying De Ligt and keeping Umtiti also means that we can change to 3 at the back in some games depending on the opponent and its strengths. A team with weak wingers but strong central attacking players would be fucked against this team. The best teams have world class wingers but not all of them and it's nice to have flexibility.

Something like:

Stegen
Pique - De Ligt - Umtiti/Lenglet
Semedo - De Jong - Busquets - Arthur - Alba
Messi - Suarez
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Buying De Ligt and keeping Umtiti also means that we can change to 3 at the back in some games depending on the opponent and its strengths. A team with weak wingers but strong central attacking players would be fucked against this team. The best teams have world class wingers but not all of them and it's nice to have flexibility.

Something like:

Stegen
Pique - De Ligt - Umtiti/Lenglet
Semedo - De Jong - Busquets - Arthur - Alba
Messi - Suarez

Love that team ... apart from Suarez who’s well past his best now and if we want to get back to being the best team around we need an absolute top class striker .. Lewandowski looks to be unsettled as well . I’d love to have Firmino myself though

..although I’d also ship out Umtiti before his injury resurfaces ..
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
Buying De Ligt and keeping Umtiti also means that we can change to 3 at the back in some games depending on the opponent and its strengths. A team with weak wingers but strong central attacking players would be fucked against this team. The best teams have world class wingers but not all of them and it's nice to have flexibility.

Something like:

Stegen
Pique - De Ligt - Umtiti/Lenglet
Semedo - De Jong - Busquets - Arthur - Alba
Messi - Suarez

That back 3 is too defensive. Alba and Semedo aren't good enough to count as offensive players, not a lot of wingbacks are.
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
Love that team ... apart from Suarez who’s well past his best now and if we want to get back to being the best team around we need an absolute top class striker .. Lewandowski looks to be unsettled as well . I’d love to have Firmino myself though

..although I’d also ship out Umtiti before his injury resurfaces ..

Oooops .. just read this !!


Samuel Umtiti has not been able to train with the team today because the pain in his knee has returned. [tv3]

AS apparently suggesting Umtiti’s season is over ..
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
Why 80m? We could pay less if we include a loan deal for Todibo. A year for Todibo in Ajax under ten Hag will be good for him and accelerate his development.

In this current market, 80m is a steal with him already being a very good CB.... with the potential to be world-class in a few years. I suspect we'll sell Umtiti for around 60m in the summer.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
That back 3 is too defensive. Alba and Semedo aren't good enough to count as offensive players, not a lot of wingbacks are.

Man if you have the likes of CRonaldo and Mandzukic going about their business in the box you'd want those 3 handling them. Anyway, I even said that the team should only be used in certain circumstances.

I will pretend that I didn't see that bit about Alba not being a good wingback.
 

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