Mavericky Puig

[xXKonan]

The last time he played in the U21 matches, he didn't look great and was subbed off pretty early.

Doesn't help he just doesn't play much in general for us which kinda creates this impression that he isn't better than the other options with the U21 side even though I think he's a lot better than what he has shown and the U21 team isn't exactly coached very well.

 

[serghei]

You'd think the U21 team has only players from Bayern, Liverpool, PSG, Real Madrid if a Barca first-team player gets no game time.

 

[fergus90]

Was actually surprised he was even called up seeing as he plays barely any minutes at all.

 

[Joan]

The last time he played in the U21 matches, he didn't look great and was subbed off pretty early.

Doesn't help he just doesn't play much in general for us which kinda creates this impression that he isn't better than the other options with the U21 side even though I think he's a lot better than what he has shown and the U21 team isn't exactly coached very well.

The coach sees him in trainings, they've been together for a week or so now. Should know if he's that better than Villar and Garcia. Both seem to do well for the U21 team, though.

Still weird he gets no time. De la Fuente likes him even better than Koeman

 

[serghei]

The coach sees him in trainings, they've been together for a week or so now. Should know if he's that better than Villar and Garcia. Both seem to do well for the U21 team, though.

Still weird he gets no time. De la Fuente likes him even better than Koeman

Yea, the coach sees him in training. So did Setien and loved him to the point that he started him vs a derby vs Atletico. Proves nothing. Managers like different players based on their own preferred style. If the manager likes the profile of Puig he will play, if they don't, he will not. He is a niche player, and this comes with good, but mostly with bad, because he needs a manager who plays a variant of total-football. Very rare to find that.

 

[JamDav1982]

Yea, the coach sees him in training. So did Setien and loved him to the point that he started him vs a derby vs Atletico. Proves nothing. Managers like different players based on their own preferred style. If the manager likes the profile of Puig he will play, if they don't, he will not. He is a niche player, and this comes with good, but mostly with bad, because he needs a manager who plays a variant of total-football. Very rare to find that.

Setien didnt love him.

In same way folk complained about Malcolm not getting chances when played well Puig was benched for game after Atletico and played 30 mins, didnt come on at all in game after that, then subbed after less than an hour the game after that.

Also didnt look to him at all by time CL came round.

 

[serghei]

Setien didnt love him.

In same way folk complained about Malcolm not getting chances when played well Puig was benched for game after Atletico and played 30 mins, didnt come on at all in game after that, then subbed after less than an hour the game after that.

Also didnt look to him at all by time CL came round.

Replace the word with whatever suits you. Trusted him to start him in important games.

 

[JamDav1982]

Replace the word with whatever suits you. Trusted him to start him in important games.

Trusted him against Atletico and then not after that and didnt even give him great game directly after that Atletico tie.

If anything Setien was not all that keen on Puig either in the end going by game time.

Plenty coaches have played players in big games then changed opinion. By end of Setiens time he didnt trust him in big games. The CL shows that.

 

[Joan]

Yea, the coach sees him in training. So did Setien and loved him to the point that he started him vs a derby vs Atletico. Proves nothing. Managers like different players based on their own preferred style. If the manager likes the profile of Puig he will play, if they don't, he will not. He is a niche player, and this comes with good, but mostly with bad, because he needs a manager who plays a variant of total-football. Very rare to find that.

Make it sound as if coaches have plenty of great players to choose from to suit particular style they intend to play. Not like that in reality. Puig comes with some flaws, but if not deemed good to play for the U21, doubt it'd have anything to do with him being a niche player.

I'm surprised he's getting no time.

 

[serghei]

Trusted him against Atletico and then not after that and didnt even give him great game directly after that Atletico tie.

If anything Setien was not all that keen on Puig either in the end going by game time.

Plenty coaches have played players in big games then changed opinion. By end of Setiens time he didnt trust him in big games. The CL shows that.

Absolute rubbish. Setien debuted him, guy had no experience in the first team at all, starts in a derby vs Atletico, and somehow you spin this into Setien wasn't all that keen on Puig. Because he didn't start him in CL quarters vs Bayern.

Never change JamDav.

Make it sound as if coaches have plenty of great players to choose from to suit particular style they intend to play. Not like that in reality. Puig comes with some flaws, but if not deemed good to play for the U21, doubt it'd have anything to do with him being a niche player.

I'm surprised he's getting no time.

I disagree here. Puig's style is pass and move, this is either followed-up on team level by everyone, or he becomes a problem (happened at Barca several times where he makes a move, teammates do not adjust, and he basically creates gaps the opponent then exploits). If you ask Puig to keep a position and don't give him the freedom to follow the ball and mix it up, you'd be better off not playing him at all.

 

[fergus90]

Setien and the Champions League is a sentence that should never be spoken of again. Will never forget his face at 2-7, world burning around him, looking down at the dugout with that clueless grin

 

[Joan]

Setien just wanted to spare his boy's career from humiliation he saw it coming

 

[JamDav1982]

Absolute rubbish. Setien debuted him, guy had no experience in the first team at all, starts in a derby vs Atletico, and somehow you spin this into Setien wasn't all that keen on Puig. Because he didn't start him in CL quarters vs Bayern.

Never change JamDav.

You are one talking nonsense as usual.

Setien 'loved' Puig so much he didnt trust him in biggest games after picked him for Atletico game and nor trusted him much in games after that.

About all can claim is rated him higher than all the other coaches who didnt/havent.

Having no experience is irrelevant to the point unless just trying to say Setien rated him higher than EV.

Played zero minutes in CL tells all need to know about where he stood by end of Setiens time and how much he 'loved' him.

Scraping the barrel with comments about 'niche' coaches.. name some of those? You wont as it means nothing and a bland point to try and find excuses as to why playing so little.

 

[fergus90]

You are one talking nonsense as usual.

Setien 'loved' Puig so much he didnt trust him in biggest games after picked him for Atletico game and nor trusted him much in games after that.

About all can claim is rated him higher than all the other coaches who didnt/havent.

Having no experience is irrelevant to the point unless just trying to say Setien rated him higher than EV.

Played zero minutes in CL tells all need to know about where he stood by end of Setiens time and how much he 'loved' him.

Fati only got 20 minutes across two games too. Puig aside, I think he just went with experienced players (as he had none at that level of football) and it massively backfired.

Not that it may of made a difference, but he had no confidence in trying something new. I doubt even certified great talents like Araujo or Pedri would even play that regularly under him.

 

[JamDav1982]

Fati only got 20 minutes across two games too. Puig aside, I think he just went with experienced players (as he had none at that stage) and it massively backfired.

Setien fucked up and tactics were horrendous but completely different to point being made of how much he rated Puig evidenced by playing him in biggest games.