Klysmakabouter
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None of the coaches that work with Puig rate him. Yet this manlet is seen as the biggest talent of Barca, without ever showing it (or wanting to show it since he doesn?t want to be loaned out). The state of you people...
Mavericky Puig
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Mike the Knife
Which coaches? Valverde? Setien? Koeman? Coaches who were tossed out for failing to win much less entertain? Blind leading the blind with that vote of no confidence in Puig
La Masia coaches, opposing coaches & players, U21 coach de la Fuente and Xavi disagree
I would much rather be in the latter group than the former
Messigician
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JamDav1982
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The opinion of Xavi who has achieved nothing in comparison to any of the others you dismiss and same that claimed Seri was born to play for Barca...
Opposition players and coaches? There wouldnt be a queue to sign Puig so that point is worse than the first.
Gnidrologist
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This thread is really something. No other one is so polarized. My opinion is such that, yes, maybe he's crap, but i couldn't know that in the slightest, because i and neither any of you have seen him play to actually give meaningful assessments. Our previous/current Barca coaches have been conservative/cowardly sacks of mincemeat that are intimidated by senior players, who always need to play despite being utter shit slurping losers and scared of experiments, because OMG IM BARCA COACH. The thing with U21 teams seems more iffy to me, because i've seen them play and they look like crap most of then time, so i'm really surprised that Puig, even despite lack of playing time in the club, can't get into it.
Klysmakabouter
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Yeah sure, Barca coaches are too afraid of fitting in young players because they are scared. Who are Ansu Fati, Pedri, Mingueza, Aurojo, Dest and Moriba then?
Puig would have played much more if he would just agreed with being send out on loan. Like the club advised him. Now he is left with very little game time and being dropped from u21. All because in Catalonia they act like Catalonian players are 3x better then they are, leaving Puig thinking he should have play time in the first squad.
There comes a time where you have to look at the player himself and stop making conspiracies of ?all the bad men who just have something against Puig?. Meaby, just meaby, it?s Puig who should do better. Or meaby, the alternatives are just better.
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Bobo32
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Some young players that the latest coach used when he couldn't use older players.
Stupid theory, no coach cares about age, they care about what players they think plays best in their system. Then they all have their prejudices and tastes.
If they don't find younger players it's because they lack the vision or didn't watch youth teams
I'm sure Puig was top 5 in 2019 as well, but maybe Valverde didn't look, he was also in no need of that kind of player in his system.
Gnidrologist
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I haven't looked at him, because i don't see him play.
serghei
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Watching Puig play, the signals are mostly positive. A player that is fast, creative, looks to play progressively and is not passive or looks to get rid of the ball out of fear of making mistakes. Yea, he's erratic a fair amount of times, and his movement needs to be corrected and tempered, but you just need a better manager to improve players. To work with him and correct the aspects of his game that need improving, while also developing the positive side of his game. Not someone to bench him indefinitely and play fucking Umtiti and Roberto.
You bash U21 quality, you should bash this quality as well.
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Top 5 in the world can not compete a spot in a U21 team lol.
More creative than prime Xavi according to this Bobo dude
Gnidrologist
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Exactly this. And i don't see how Moriba deserves more of attention than Puig. They're both talented lads, who need better coaching. Koeman simply makes arbitrary decisions on either his personal emotions or gut feelings. Just like he has done it before in his career.
This obsession of deeming every young player that struggles at club just needs a better manager is quite bizarre. Many players can succeed with the ideal system, manager, supporting cast etc. but things rarely ever line up like that in world football. Many fans seem to be stuck in the Pep days and have this utopian mentality that is virtually impossible to implement in practice apart from a few times in history.
The odds are if a player that is almost 22 cannot even make his U-21 national side then 99/100 times he is not going to go on to have a great career at the top level. How many young players in the last few years that we let go went on to prove that they are top level footballers? Not many. Likes of Denis, Digne etc. found their level at lesser clubs, while lads like Arthur, Mina, Samper etc. went on to flop completely. Tempting to bring up Thiago, but that was almost a decade ago and he was behind Xavi and Iniesta. Even then he did not have a very consistent career at Bayern.
But yes, it's always the evil EV, Lucho and Koeman's fault that the vast majority of youngsters at the club never make it at the top and not just simple reality that the level required to succeed at a club like Barca is very high and most don't have what it takes. Keyboard warriors will watch their favourite prospects flop year after year, but will still go on the hype the next Masia star and pretend they have it all figured out.
The odds are if a player that is almost 22 cannot even make his U-21 national side then 99/100 times he is not going to go on to have a great career at the top level. How many young players in the last few years that we let go went on to prove that they are top level footballers? Not many. Likes of Denis, Digne etc. found their level at lesser clubs, while lads like Arthur, Mina, Samper etc. went on to flop completely. Tempting to bring up Thiago, but that was almost a decade ago and he was behind Xavi and Iniesta. Even then he did not have a very consistent career at Bayern.
But yes, it's always the evil EV, Lucho and Koeman's fault that the vast majority of youngsters at the club never make it at the top and not just simple reality that the level required to succeed at a club like Barca is very high and most don't have what it takes. Keyboard warriors will watch their favourite prospects flop year after year, but will still go on the hype the next Masia star and pretend they have it all figured out.
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