Mesut Ozil

[Trequartista]

He will probably become another Hleb. 3 million cheaper though.
Hope Pep pulls the plug on this transfer.

Agreed 100%,I cant see him fitting here,its not about signing good players,its the same problem of fitting in our formation and our style.

 

[dalitis8]

Werder are denying the rumours apparently...

 

[Plip]

Shit-stirring by Sport and EMD? Now who would've guessed....

 

[Trequartista]

Werder are denying the rumours apparently...

But Allofs hinted that he will leave.

 

[Metaphysical]

yeah werder have said there is no deal and no discussions.

phew!

this was an agent trying to force clubs, specifically united and chelsea IMO, to bid.

 

[el tren]

He will probably become another Hleb. 3 million cheaper though.
Hope Pep pulls the plug on this transfer.

Özil however has a better image from his WC performances - which would raise the chance of selling him w/out a loss significantly. I also really start to believe that Hlebs failure has a lot to do with him being unable and/or willing to integrate into the team. So that shouldnt necessarily be true for Özil.

Ozil plays the CAM in 4-2-3-1 formation for both his club and his country

Personally I believe that 4-3-3 is similar to 4-2-3-1... with one of the 2 DMs in latter playing a li'l bit higher up the pitch(Xavi) and the CAM operating a bit closer to the CM(Iniesta). So I don't see the point of Ozil not making it tactically... more so because of Pep's penchant towards using a target man!!

While i dont think that Özil, playing as CM, is able to neither put the aggressive pressing into practice right away nor know where and how to position himself when Barca is off possession, there might still be a solid chance for him to learn it. It could take a while, half a year or even a full year, but he is young and perhaps not totally unadaptive.

I just wouldnt expect him to fill in asap, sth that Cesc would have been able to. Thats what makes him much less valuable, esp. as this is the most vacant position currently. Still 12M is a bargain and doesnt involve much risk ... and could be very rewarding under a longterm view.

 

[Trequartista]

Özil however has a better image from his WC performances - which would raise the chance of selling him w/out a loss significantly. I also really start to believe that Hlebs failure has a lot to do with him being unable and/or willing to integrate into the team. So that shouldnt necessarily be true for Özil.


While i dont think that Özil, playing as CM, is able to neither put the aggressive pressing into practice right away nor know where and how to position himself when Barca is off possession, there might still be a solid chance for him to learn it. It could take a while, half a year or even a full year, but he is young and perhaps not totally unadaptive.

I just wouldnt expect him to fill in asap, sth that Cesc would have been able to. Thats what makes him much less valuable, esp. as this is the most vacant position currently. Still 12M is a bargain and doesnt involve much risk ... and could be very rewarding under a longterm view.

I have a feeling that we will Sign OZil ahead of a defensive midfielder,so we will play more with OZil's favourite formation 4-2-3-1,when Busquetes is ready,we will play with 4-3-3,if he is injured or suspended,we will switch to 4-2-3-1,a formation where we can choose 2 players from Xavi,Keita,JDS,Thiago,Even Sergi Roberto to be our midfield partner but Iniesta can only as a winger in this formation or maybe as a AMF,It will be interesting if we signed Ozil and reject the position we really need(DMF),it wil be a bad move but it will be interesting to see how will Pep use our players in those 2 different formation.

 

[IbraFTW]

It would probably be a smart business move, if nothing else. We would probably be able to sell him for at least twice as much next year, so why not... Other than that, I don't really care if we sign him or not. Assuming JDS or Thiago can fill in for Xavi if he gets injured, I see current squad as almost complete. There's the DM issue and we don't have adequate replacement for Pique/Puyol, in case one of them gets injured... But then again, how do you get to have someone as good as those two, and keep him benched most of the time? Wait, who's our Iniesta backup? Keita?

 

[Aryagorn]

I dunno about being gleb-levels of useless, but this is a weird transfer.

our forward line is sorted with messi/villa/zlatan/pedro/bojan/jeffren, it's midfield where we need presence.

perhaps pep will convert ozil into more of a CM? who knows.

he's a fantastic player, but we really don't need him. there's something strange going on here.

one could argue he'll be a makeweight for cesc, but at 12m arsenal would surely just move themselves and rake in 30m+ profit on a cesc sale?

something strange, for sure.

If we are not ready to risk him when all we might want from him in his first year is to be a worthy back-up for Iniesta... how could Arsenal take a risk of shipping out their engine/soul for him!? We on one hand might not need instant results like u & el tren say while Arsenal would need him to replace Cesc and provide instant results in goals & assists instantly!!

definitely more risky for Arsenal than for us, so nothing strange in them preferring to keep Cesc. Moreover Arsenal, now, in a very secured financial situations and need not think about the money saved. They would probably rule England for 3-4 years down the line, might not be this year but in near future for sure because of that

 

[silky_soccer]

It would probably be a smart business move, if nothing else. We would probably be able to sell him for at least twice as much next year, so why not... Other than that, I don't really care if we sign him or not. Assuming JDS or Thiago can fill in for Xavi if he gets injured, I see current squad as almost complete. There's the DM issue and we don't have adequate replacement for Pique/Puyol, in case one of them gets injured... But then again, how do you get to have someone as good as those two, and keep him benched most of the time? Wait, who's our Iniesta backup? Keita?

Gabi Milito? International standard CB right there.

 

[Aryagorn]

Gabi Milito? International standard CB right there.

Botia is transferred to Sporting so I believe Pep is really confident on the fringe players & that Puyol would play more often than he's expected to(because of the age catching one would easily assume he'd play sparsely compared to the previous years)

Pep himself declared he's not at all going to consider a CB signing because he's adequate number players for that position and that he might think about a mid fielder if there's a possibility!!

 

[IbraFTW]

Gabi Milito? International standard CB right there.

I know, but he wasn't nearly as good as any of P/P last season, imho. He is a backup, but I always feel a little nervous when those two are not on the pitch. He'd have to be much better to keep me relaxed

 

[desoe]

That's strange. Milito was awesome, considering the fact that he didn't even have a pre-season, coming back from 2 years of not playing the game.

 

[silky_soccer]

That's strange. Milito was awesome, considering the fact that he didn't even have a pre-season, coming back from 2 years of not playing the game.

Couldnt of Put it Better, Milito was brilliant.

 

[IbraFTW]

That's strange. Milito was awesome, considering the fact that he didn't even have a pre-season, coming back from 2 years of not playing the game.

Considering those facts, yes, he was good. So was Marquez, considering his injury etc. But the only thing that matters, especially in big games, is how good they actually are, regardless of all the 'excuses' (for lack of a better word). I'm not saying he's not good, just that he wasn't as good as Pique or Puyol last season. I hope I'm wrong and you are right Was there also talk about Abidal playing CB?