Mohamed Salah

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
neymar had 1 memorable year (2015) and he was rightfully recognized for it in the ballon d'or nomination

everything else after no one cares about. his 6-1 performance is still his biggest achievement to date since 2015 :lol:
 

Laplacian

Senior Member
I get what he's trying to say though. Numbers wise, Neymar obviously achieved more. In terms of impact though, being responsible for ending a historically elite club's 30 year drought in domestic league titles after winning them a champion's league is bigger in my book. Neymar reached the peak of football with a superclub, Salah along with prime Mane, Trent, and Robertson headed by Klopp elevated a frequently underachieving club to being one of the best in football.

Both historical feats, but in terms of impact I'd choose Salah.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Would take Salah now but what Neymar has achieved in career and role he played in it is more impressive.

Barca treble was on MSN more than anything and they all were huge in that.

For Liverpool Salah was and is class but VVD was the man that got them to that CL more than anyone. Up top there was not much between Mane and Salah.
 

clemente

New member
Nobody knew about Salah till he was 25, Neymar was world wide known since his teens, the careers aren't really comparable.
 

Morten

Senior Member
His 17/18 season is not better than Neymar winning treble and his role in those trophies. Not even close.

How is it not close?

Salah was the outstanding attacker for Liverpool in 17/18, when he came off after Ramos injuried him you could instantly tell the difference, and thats without even going into all the goals and assists(Salah beats him in both categories in roughly same amount of game time).

Though trophies are part of the equation, that treble-side for Barcelona had a competent midfield and defense, Liverpools defense that season was quite sketchy, Salah did not have as good of a squad with Liverpool in 17/18 as Neymar had with Barcelona in 14/15.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Would take Salah now but what Neymar has achieved in career and role he played in it is more impressive.

Barca treble was on MSN more than anything and they all were huge in that.

For Liverpool Salah was and is class but VVD was the man that got them to that CL more than anyone. Up top there was not much between Mane and Salah.

Ironically I thought he was pretty weak in the first leg against us :lol: But that's CL, you need more than one player stepping up. Salah was one of the big ones for them, just as Neymar was for us.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
How is it not close?

Salah was the outstanding attacker for Liverpool in 17/18, when he came off after Ramos injuried him you could instantly tell the difference, and thats without even going into all the goals and assists(Salah beats him in both categories in roughly same amount of game time).

Though trophies are part of the equation, that treble-side for Barcelona had a competent midfield and defense, Liverpools defense that season was quite sketchy, Salah did not have as good of a squad with Liverpool in 17/18 as Neymar had with Barcelona in 14/15.

Salah was best player in team that won nothing and finished 4th in league. Who knows that happens if he stays fit in final but he didnt.

Being main man is in some ways easier than being in team where have to find a way create attack with two of best players in world along side you.

Neymar made that work as arguably the third wheel in those three in way team was set up and was huge part of best attacking three of all time in team that won second treble in history.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Ironically I thought he was pretty weak in the first leg against us :lol: But that's CL, you need more than one player stepping up. Salah was one of the big ones for them, just as Neymar was for us.

Salah missed good chances in first leg and then didnt even play in second where VVD played well.

Hardly a tie to point to Salah over VVD.

All players have games they are weak. Salah, Neymar, Messi, VVD. All of them.
 

Morten

Senior Member
Salah was best player in team that won nothing and finished 4th in league. Who knows that happens if he stays fit in final but he didnt.

Being main man is in some ways easier than being in team where have to find a way create attack with two of best players in world along side you.

Neymar made that work as arguably the third wheel in those three in way team was set up and was huge part of best attacking three of all time in team that won second treble in history.

Well, sometimes players have incredible individual seasons with nothing or little to show for, Messi's ridiculous 73 goal season as the prime example of that.

It may not be good for the team to have the attack revolve around that much around a single player, but its difficult to blame that individual player for the lack of trophies that season, wouldn't you agree?
 

malvolio

Senior Member
The only thing that was surprising for me in this debate would be how underrated Neymar's time in Brazil is around here.

I mean the guy was huge over there before coming to Europe. And unlike others, he also delivered in Europe.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

Well-known member
Wait, what? He has 1 PL and 1 CL.

Neymar has 1 treble, another LL, and then a bunch of other smaller trophies like Uber Eats Ligue :lol:

Oh, somehow i thought salah had also won PL in 18/19. Anyways, he has 1 CL and two PL's + 2x PL topscorer titles = equal to 2LL + 1CL ?

Edit: Forgot that Ney had also won confederations cup in 2013, ok Ney wins this battle by a small margin.

How so?

17/18 season is arguably on par with anything Neymar ever did, and he could repeat that this season again if he keeps this up(big if).

You can argue that Neymar has a better peak than Salah, fine, but i dont think there is that much in it.

In terms of longetivity i agree with you but comparing peaks in 15-18 i rate Ney higher. Finishing wise salah wins but dribbling, passing, free kicks i would choose Neymar. Even when he has gone to farmer league he had still some fantastic performances in cl against bayern, napoli, liverpool, real madrid. Salah 17-18 comes close to Neymar's peak but there is still significant distance IMO.
 

Rory

Senior Member
Salah has achieved near similar things in a weaker front three and team in general. Neymar was immense in 14/15. Would he have achieved what he achieved with the quality of Mane and Firmino instead of the quality of Messi and Suarez? Doubt it.

VVD a key component in the Liveprool side that won ucl yes, however I think his role is overstated. They conceded 7 goals in the group stage, only won vs PSG at home by outscoring them. At one point they were 2-0 up and allowed PSG back in and required a last min goal for the win. VVD also should have seen red in the final match for his shocking tackle vs Mertens that would have seen him out vs Bayern. He had a good R of 16 and quarters. Conceded 3 away to us. Then let Coutinho and Suarez have very good chances at Anfield. In the final Salah scores decisive penalty. Spurs barely attacked all game.
 

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