Mohamed Salah

malvolio

Senior Member
Forgot Ronaldo used to date prime Irina. lol




From what I've noticed, most models (even the 'super' types) want kids and a family. Irina had a kid barely 2 years after splitting up with Ronaldo.

I can't think of one high end model in her 30s without kids and a family.

the question is - how many of those high profile girls(super models, actresses, singers etc) have stable marriages?
 

Laplacian

Senior Member
the question is - how many of those high profile girls(super models, actresses, singers etc) have stable marriages?

Umm, I'm not that invested in celebrity lifestyles. But to counter, it's not like marriages of "normal people" are all that stable either. In Scandinavia the divorce rate is about 48%-53%, in North America it's 50%.

Also this is definitely confirmation bias, but there are lot more stories about male footballers cheating on their wives than there are about super models cheating on their husbands...

Just sayin'.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Umm, I'm not that invested in celebrity lifestyles. But to counter, it's not like marriages of "normal people" are all that stable either. In Scandinavia the divorce rate is about 48%-53%, in North America it's 50%.

Also this is definitely confirmation bias, but there are lot more stories about male footballers cheating on their wives than there are about super models cheating on their husbands...

Just sayin'.

tru as well
 

Birdy

Senior Member
for me:

overall career - neymar > salah

level in their prime - neymar > salah

current form - salah > neymar

Story of Salah is not finished yet
Story of Neymar is almost finished

Salah trumps Ney in all the categories you mentioned.
Even level in their prime is questionable, because if you try to quantify it you will find Salah's immense numbers standing there,
plus that he made those in EPL, and not in farmer's league

The only category Neymar is undoubtedly better is the 'natural talent' one
but who cares who is more of a natural talent and who is less?
If Salah worked hard enough to reach a level Neymar had with 0 work, that's a plus on Salah rather on Ney
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Story of Salah is not finished yet
Story of Neymar is almost finished

Salah trumps Ney in all the categories you mentioned.
Even level in their prime is questionable, because if you try to quantify it you will find Salah's immense numbers standing there,
plus that he made those in EPL, and not in farmer's league

The only category Neymar is undoubtedly better is the 'natural talent' one
but who cares who is more of a natural talent and who is less?
If Salah worked hard enough to reach a level Neymar had with 0 work, that's a plus on Salah rather on Ney

Here comes the football luminary, the master of tactics, the king of stats :lol:

While Neymar was winning everything as the best player in South America and then wining trebles and doubles at Barcelona. Salah was riding camels in Egypt, killing it in mighty Switzerland, was a failure at Chelsea and got loaned 2 times to Serie A clubs.

Guess their professional careers started in 2017, isn't it?
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
Salah needs to win another PL and another CL to have a better career than Neymar. I don't think the difference in talent is that big too, Salah is a crack.
 

oggydude

New member
Salah had Mane and Firminho as support. Neymar had Messi and Suarez. Salah winning the PL for Liverpool is bigger than Neymar winning the treble. No one cares about Neymar’s achievements in Brazil or France and he never stayed with Barca long enough to take on the mantle of being the main focal point of a team in a difficult league. Salah was the focal point for Liverpools success with CL and PL, Messi not Neymar was the focal point for all of Neymars trophies so far. Let’s see him win anything for Brazil and we can rediscuss.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Salah had Mane and Firminho as support. Neymar had Messi and Suarez. Salah winning the PL for Liverpool is bigger than Neymar winning the treble. No one cares about Neymar’s achievements in Brazil or France and he never stayed with Barca long enough to take on the mantle of being the main focal point of a team in a difficult league. Salah was the focal point for Liverpools success with CL and PL, Messi not Neymar was the focal point for all of Neymars trophies so far. Let’s see him win anything for Brazil and we can rediscuss.

yeah mate, by your logic jamie vardy is a bigger player than both salah and neymar.

no one cares about neymar's achievements in brazil while he was the best player in a santos side that won the libertadores for the first time since pele was there, in 1963?

so it all boils down to 4 years in their career, 2017-2021. as it suits your theory that salah is better, even though he was nowhere to be seen from 2010-2017 when compared to neymar's exploits. :lol:
 

oggydude

New member
yeah mate, by your logic jamie vardy is a bigger player than both salah and neymar.

no one cares about neymar's achievements in brazil while he was the best player in a santos side that won the libertadores for the first time since pele was there, in 1963?

so it all boils down to 4 years in their career, 2017-2021. as it suits your theory that salah is better, even though he was nowhere to be seen from 2010-2017 when compared to neymar's exploits. :lol:

Vardy didn’t deliver consistent success for Leicester otherwise yes he’d be regarded just as highly. Again most people don’t care about what he did in Brazil because it’s not in Europe. Whilst Salah didn’t perform in his early 20s he’s crushed Neymar in his late 20s as the main man. Neymar has not been able to win the CL without Messi and that will taint his career unless he achieves it without him or wins the WC with Brazil. Neymar has actually underachieved since leaving Barca he couldn’t even deliver PSG the title last year.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
No one with any sense will point to Neymar not winning CL without Messi as if that means anything.

Neymar was a huge reason Barca won that CL and could just as easily say post Pep Messi cant win CL without Neymar.

It took the best ever front three to win that CL and not winning it with any one of them not there.

'Salah hasnt won CL without Van Dijk' is easy come back to that one anyway.

Van Dijk was the best player in that Liverpool CL winning side. He was the 'main man' not Salah.
 
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Morten

Senior Member
title wise salah has already achieved more than neymar but from individual play he will never get to 2015-2018 Neymar level.

How so?

17/18 season is arguably on par with anything Neymar ever did, and he could repeat that this season again if he keeps this up(big if).

You can argue that Neymar has a better peak than Salah, fine, but i dont think there is that much in it.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
How so?

17/18 season is arguably on par with anything Neymar ever did, and he could repeat that this season again if he keeps this up(big if).

You can argue that Neymar has a better peak than Salah, fine, but i dont think there is that much in it.

His 17/18 season is not better than Neymar winning treble and his role in those trophies. Not even close.
 

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