Nelson Semedo

[JamDav1982]

Barça are conceding a fair few shots within the box. I put the stats up already... We’re conceding basically the same amount of shots per game as previously. Only difference is Ter Stegen saves per goals conceded is through the roof. It is not sustainable.

Part of defending is making those chances harder to score.

A team like Peps Bayern who got killed on the break against most decent teams and scored from a few break aways is not a better team defensively than likes of Atetico who block more shots in and around the box.

Giving your keeper a better chance of saving a shot is all involved.

 

[MessiCam]

1. I never suggested that Denis and Roberto would become great players for us or are currently world class, I want them in the starting XI because they are better options right now than Suarez and Rakitic; do you not agree with that?

2. I never suggested that we played great football last year. I wasn't a big fan of Lucho's tactics that relied heavily on MSN and imploded once Messi decided to leave the right flank and the midfield declined. Lucho's tactics were flawed and so are Valverde's right now.

I see your point and that the team is still getting results, but for me the team has gone from one inept coach in Lucho to another in Valverde. It's only a matter of time before this tactical setup falls apart in terms of getting results, the signs are already there. Your post makes some sense, but you really misrepresented what I said, I was neither a big fan of Lucho's MSN reliant tactics, nor am I a blinded Masia puppet that wants to promote everyone and their mothers from the B team.

Just being realistic that's all.

The players he is ragging on are outperforming the very players he insists we stick with in almost every attacking metric.

 

[MessiCam]

Part of defending is making those chances harder to score.

A team like Peps Bayern who got killed on the break against most decent teams and scored from a few break aways is not a better team defensively than likes of Atetico who block more shots in and around the box.

Giving your keeper a better chance of saving a shot is all involved.

Ter Stegen is making miracle saves basically every game man. Everybody can see it... People are just choosing to bury their heads in the sand because the results are there but one ugly loss and you’ll see the tears.

What we’ve managed to achieve thus far defensively is just not sustainable. It will all come crashing down eventually.

 

[JamDav1982]

Ter Stegen is making miracle saves basically every game man. Everybody can see it... People are just choosing to bury their heads in the sand because the results are there but one ugly loss and you’ll see the tears.

What we’ve managed to achieve thus far defensively is just not sustainable. It will all come crashing down eventually.

Ter Stegen is playing well. Something that happens for almost every top team ever is that they have a performing keeper at the back.

Those same people will cry if team tries to play in some ideal way and doesnt win. Seen it all before and Barca have been playing well and not been outplayed in a single game yet.

Conceding something like 2/3 more shots a game than Peps team did in its prime with the ideal players for playing that way.

What is the ideal way to defend better? It is all too easy to say 'it will all come crashing down' when in reality you dont have any solution to prevent that from happening. No one can gtee that.

 

[MessiCam]

Ter Stegen is playing well. Something that happens for almost every top team ever is that they have a performing keeper at the back.

Those same people will cry if team tries to play in some ideal way and doesnt win. Seen it all before and Barca have been playing well and not been outplayed in a single game yet.

Conceding something like 2/3 more shots a game than Peps team did in its prime with the ideal players for playing that way.

What is the ideal way to defend better? It is all too easy to say 'it will all come crashing down' when in reality you dont have any solution to prevent that from happening. No one can gtee that.

No one can guarantee that but don’t sit there and tell me Ter Stegen saves per goal is sustainable. Because it is just not... He is bailing us out a lot and with us grinding out results it will come crashing down.

Further I’m not asking for perfect football... I just want the players that are actually performing to play. Why should we change a winning system to accommodate the failures?

 

[JamDav1982]

No I agree Barca will not go through the season conceding so few goals but that doesn mean team have not been defending well and it has not been a Ter Stegen miracle show every week anyway.

You act like trying to play some Pep brand football with these players would make the team stronger at the back when it wont and seen plenty where teams have come crashing down playing that way. In fact most do.

Which team has the best defence in La Liga?

 

[Joan]

Oblak's been great this season too... preventing some majastic shots and theyve still lost lots of points

You wanna say Atleticos defence is not good?

 

[xXKonan]

Ehh Atletico's Defense is really weak in the air.

I noticed every ball that comes towards them in the box whether it be from a set piece or open play they struggle.

 

[JamDav1982]

Ehh Atletico's Defense is really weak in the air.

I noticed every ball that comes towards them in the box whether it be from a set piece or open play they struggle.

Which team has best defence in La Liga so far this season?

Assume most agree Atletico has had best defence past few seasons prior.

 

[MessiCam]

No I agree Barca will not go through the season conceding so few goals but that doesn mean team have not been defending well and it has not been a Ter Stegen miracle show every week anyway.

You act like trying to play some Pep brand football with these players would make the team stronger at the back when it wont and seen plenty where teams have come crashing down playing that way. In fact most do.

Which team has the best defence in La Liga?

I don’t want them to play a Pep brand of football. The 4-4-2 system he has used non-stop since the Girona game is not working... He changed it from a system that was because it got the best out of Semedo, Alba, Messi and Busquets. What we have now is system tailored to Suárez, Rakitic and Gomes who have done jack shit thus far.

In the 4-4-2 system Busquets is isolated with limited passing options, Messi’s output was outstanding under the False 9 system but he has contributed just 3 goals since and 2 of those came via a tactical switch to a 4-3-3 against Las Palmas. Alba started the season wrecking havoc down the left flank and provided 3 assists. Since then he has only produced 1...

Why is a system being played that handcuffs your best players?

I could maybe understand if the system made Suárez and Rakitic more productive but it hasn’t. Answer me that.

 

[xXKonan]

Which team has best defence in La Liga so far this season?

Assume most agree Atletico has had best defence past few seasons prior.

Yeah that's what I was getting at Atletico had the best defense in the league no question in the past few seasons But they seem to be struggling a bit in the air these days.

I think defensively we gotten a lot better despite the Midfield at times not providing enough protection and Pique being off form.

 

[Joan]

Ter Stegen had 3.4 saves per game last season.

This season its 2.5. *la liga*

Stegens doing great but you cant deny weve improved in terms of defending.

Dont know whether Id say that. Godins quite good in the air. Did you watch them against Villareal? Godin

 

[JamDav1982]

I don’t want them to play a Pep brand of football. The 4-4-2 system he has used non-stop since the Girona game is not working... He changed it from a system that was because it got the best out of Semedo, Alba, Messi and Busquets. What we have now is system tailored to Suárez, Rakitic and Gomes who have done jack shit thus far.

In the 4-4-2 system Busquets is isolated with limited passing options, Messi’s output was outstanding under the False 9 system but he has contributed just 3 goals since and 2 of those came via a tactical switch to a 4-3-3 against Las Palmas. Alba started the season wrecking havoc down the left flank and provided 3 assists. Since then he has only produced 1...

Why is a system being played that handcuffs your best players?

I could maybe understand if the system made Suárez and Rakitic more productive but it hasn’t. Answer me that.

It is working.

The formation now is not all that different from the one Alba got those assists in he is still being asked to take the whole left hand side when Barca are attacking.

The 4-4-2 is more the defensive shape. Barca are not attacking in a 4-4-2 formation.

Th system is not handcuffing the best players. Sure Messi this season has had more chances at goal than any other season at Barca. He and many others are playing well.

Busquets is not isloated and on the ball he has been as good as ever and has a new range of passing and freedom to play that way he never had in past.

The most I have ever seen Busquets isolated was in past two seasons playing three in middle and being exposed by lack of pace around him with Raki and Iniesta and teams breaking through Barca mid with pace all the time.

 

[MessiCam]

Ter Stegen had 3.4 saves per game last season.

This season its 2.5. *la liga*

Stegens doing great but you cant deny weve improved in terms of defending.

Dont know whether Id say that. Godins quite good in the air. Did you watch them against Villareal? Godin

Nope. This year it’s 2.1 per game vs 2.8 last year.

 

[MessiCam]

It is working.

The formation now is not all that different from the one Alba got those assists in he is still being asked to take the whole left hand side when Barca are attacking.

The 4-4-2 is more the defensive shape. Barca are not attacking in a 4-4-2 formation.

Th system is not handcuffing the best players. Sure Messi this season has had more chances at goal than any other season at Barca. He and many others are playing well.

Busquets is not isloated and on the ball he has been as good as ever and has a new range of passing and freedom to play that way he never had in past.

The most I have ever seen Busquets isolated was in past two seasons playing three in middle and being exposed by lack of pace around him with Raki and Iniesta and teams breaking through Barca mid with pace all the time.

Oh dear.