Nelson Semedo

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Don't like to blame Semedo too much on the goal. He foresaw the pass and almost intercepted it. If he had caught it he would be praised. He took a risk and it turned into an individual mistake. Players make mistakes from time to time. Slightly unfortunate that his lead to an immediate goal.

Also think he was in a difficult situation as he would've needed to leave the other player behind who was free to be played to.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Semedo first games for Barca: lights out, dominating defensive performances.
Valverde benches for some STRANGE reason: wth
Semedo plays again out of rhythm: understandably rusty
Barcaforum: sell

Never change guys.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Semedo was horrific yesterday and the goal is his fault but this guy is young and he will be a great RB! We need to give him time and accept the fact that some bad games will happen. It’s all part of his first year here, give him a break.
 

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
People who criticize his offensive ability don't really seem to understand how difficult it is to play wing back in a team that puts all its heart in attacking through the middle. He has so few options going forward it's crazy. Guy would have to beat several men in no space on his own to get a good cross in. Semedo would be immense playing in a system like Real's.

My problem is with his game intelligence. He doesn't provide good options off the ball. One example: Deulofeu was advancing the ball in the right-central channel on a break. Semedo was ahead of him in the same channel. The obvious run for the right back to make is toward the touch line, to provide width- drag a defender wide or give an open passing option if left unmarked. But Semedo kept running directly ahead of Deulofeu, marked by a defender, so not a passing option, and clogging the channel where Deulofeu was advancing.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
People who criticize his offensive ability don't really seem to understand how difficult it is to play wing back in a team that puts all its heart in attacking through the middle. He has so few options going forward it's crazy. Guy would have to beat several men in no space on his own to get a good cross in. Semedo would be immense playing in a system like Real's.

Alba is having his best season going forward so too is Roberto probably. Digne also doing well.

Semedo has been dodgy potsitionally and very poor going foarward for past couple months more or less.

It isnt the system that is causing that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
My problem is with his game intelligence. He doesn't provide good options off the ball. One example: Deulofeu was advancing the ball in the right-central channel on a break. Semedo was ahead of him in the same channel. The obvious run for the right back to make is toward the touch line, to provide width- drag a defender wide or give an open passing option if left unmarked. But Semedo kept running directly ahead of Deulofeu, marked by a defender, so not a passing option, and clogging the channel where Deulofeu was advancing.

Yeah. Said it at the moment during the match and he did that twice to Deulofeu.

He had no clue where to move in their half.
 

God Serena

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Yeah. Said it at the moment during the match and he did that twice to Deulofeu.

He had no clue where to move in their half.

I actually agree. Everyone is quick to dogpile on Deulofeu for the terrible showing he had, but Semedo being marked in the exact spot he wanted to take the ball certainly didn't do him any favors.
 

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
I think you have to put some of that on the coaching. I just watched a clip of Pep working 1-on-1 with Raheem Sterling, emphatically demonstrating how to play on the wing to be effective. Pep would have trained the crap out of Semedo and made sure he stuck to it during games.

https://twitter.com/Mindfootballnes/status/933104929564250112

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clemente

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I don't think Semedo had a good game, but I don't get how he's blamed for the goal. It's a simple 2 v 1, he was going to lose in any which way, with Rakishit just staring at them gliding past their man.

I think Semedo has shown potential and bright spots in games; far more than what Rakitic and Suarez have shown this season. Yet, Semedo is consistently punished for having a poor game, while mediocrity is rewarded with unlimited playing time for the guy who probably keeps a Maharaja Mac stuffed down his stockings.

Semedo needs some playing time to build up his rythmn. It can't help that he almost never has a run of games with one particular RW; sometimes its Deulofeu, sometimes it's Rakitic or Paulinho, and most times it's nobody. It's shocking to see people pining for Roberto, who is a fine player, but just go back and look at the Roberto forums at the end of last season. People were flaming him for not being anywhere CLOSE to good enough, and most posts said he should never play anywhere near RB again. And yet, here we are, with Roberto suddenly being our RB saviour.

I definitely think Semedo is better suited for RB, he has the pace and athleticism for it. He has shown he is good defensively (I thought he did a great job against Costa in Turin) and just needs a functioning RW to show his attacking potential. I am fairly confident most people here will be eating their words, sooner than later.

This has to be the most pathetic comment I've read, in the first sentence you give away that you hate Rakitic and just want to blame him for something. If Semedo followed the overlap Rakitic would have gotten there in time to cover, even if he was late its much more important to follow the overlapping guy, Semedo probably saw him too late.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
I think you have to put some of that on the coaching. I just watched a clip of Pep working 1-on-1 with Raheem Sterling, emphatically demonstrating how to play on the wing to be effective. Pep would have trained the crap out of Semedo and made sure he stuck to it during games.

That Pep clip is just that sort of shit that pops up and people look too much into.

There has been countless players Pep has not been able to coach up to the required standard.

Far, far more important than any coaching is the ability of the player in the first case.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
On the goal

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Get out of here with your photoshopped pictures to make Semedo look good. All I see in the Real picture is Semdo being shite again. Not only did Semedo fail to contain Guedes , he also failed to cover Gaya. What a horrible player.

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BBZ8800

Senior Member
My problem is with his game intelligence. He doesn't provide good options off the ball. One example: Deulofeu was advancing the ball in the right-central channel on a break. Semedo was ahead of him in the same channel. The obvious run for the right back to make is toward the touch line, to provide width- drag a defender wide or give an open passing option if left unmarked. But Semedo kept running directly ahead of Deulofeu, marked by a defender, so not a passing option, and clogging the channel where Deulofeu was advancing.

Yeah. Said it at the moment during the match and he did that twice to Deulofeu.

He had no clue where to move in their half.

As Bojan said earlier, that is one of cons of buying a guy who had 30-40 professional matches in his feet.
Even if he has tons of potential, it'll take years of schooling and losing points until he gets the basics.

I am posting this because people always whine against buying older players (even 26 and 27 year olds seem to be the problem lately).
While youngsters are also coming with 100s of different problems and tons of different baggage.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
On the goal

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Rakitic movement wasn't the fault, he came from long distance away as he was pressuring another player in the middle , the whole team shifted to left side due to Vermaelen pressuring.
Rakitic has made the best he can do in such situation really.
As for Semedo, it wasn't just the goal, he made more wrong than right that game.

Rakitic did fuck all in coverage during the second half yesterday before he was pulled. He was either wrongly positioned or way to late in trying to come in for help, was Semedo also at fault? Yeah but Rakitic also deserves a portion of the blame as well.

He did the same shit with Roberto last season as well. He was either slow to get back or nowhere near positioned enough to help Bob then as well.

Rakitic is a midfielder, not a winger. I honestly still prefer us when we had a RW and don't like that Valverde is ignoring that.

Semedo was horrific yesterday and the goal is his fault but this guy is young and he will be a great RB! We need to give him time and accept the fact that some bad games will happen. It’s all part of his first year here, give him a break.

That is true, but at the mean time people will also have to understand that when Roberto is playing at the position, it isn't because EV is an idiot, but because he has been our best RB this season.
 

Jombi

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As Bojan said earlier, that is one of cons of buying a guy who had 30-40 professional matches in his feet.

He had played 65 professional games, including CL games, not 30-40. Games for Portugal not included.

Who would you have bought instead? Some 26 year old Aleix Vidal type from La Liga instead? Or someone closer to 30? Lots of complaining but no solutions.
 

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