Nelson Semedo

shadows

Member
Abidal had 10 assists for Barca in 192 matches.
That is on average, one assist each 19 matches.

According to Whoscored, Semedo has 0 assists in 67 matches for Barca.
That is on average, one assist in: never

Even Oleguer Presas as a Rb managed to have 2 assists.
I didn't check all numbers, but there is a high chance that Semedo is the worst Barca's fullback in terms of assists in a semi-modern history.

You can't blame only EV for that...

So Roberto is the best RB we can ever have after Dani Alves .. and well Abidal is the worst Left back we have had since well he came in the prime age of 27 (or 28) and provided just 10 assists in 6 long years assuming he indeed had 10 assists which influenced games..plus as per stats, he got himself sent off in a crucial Champions league Semi finals, how stupid of him!!!!.

If both Roberto and Semedo were indeed equal i would agree that Semedo can be sold since he doesn't have the assists ...but considering the disaster that Roberto and Pique are together most of the time, its just plain stupid at this point to just go by assists at the expense of the disaster that the backline is every time they play together against a team that decides to attack..

@People considering Kimmich..Thats just a pipe dream i think and would be a disastrous move for him to leave Bayern and join the seniors club if he indeed accepts a role on the bench while Mr. Safe plays Roberto time and again...
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
If both Roberto and Semedo were indeed equal i would agree that Semedo can be sold since he doesn't have the assists ...but considering the disaster that Roberto and Pique are together most of the time, its just plain stupid at this point to just go by assists at the expense of the disaster that the backline is every time they play together against a team that decides to attack

Our main trophy next season will be La liga.
In a CL, we are not favorites anymore.
Messi will be 33.

To win La liga, which player will help you more: Roberto or Semedo?
= Roberto, since majority of La liga teams are weaker and we are attacking all the time.
At Camp Nou, some teams are barely entering into our half.
Against parked buses, even Arthur is useless, and especially someone like Semedo.

So, for La liga, RB who is better in attack and weaker in defense is better than Semedo.
Cl is a different story, though.
 

shadows

Member
Our main trophy next season will be La liga.
In a CL, we are not favorites anymore.
Messi will be 33.

To win La liga, which player will help you more: Roberto or Semedo?
= Roberto, since majority of La liga teams are weaker and we are attacking all the time.

So, for La liga, RB who is better in attack and weaker in defense is better than Semedo.
Cl is a different story, though.

In Valverde's system, Messi decides if we win a trophy or not, not Roberto or Semedo..Plus it would still be better to have Semedo to provide better cover for Pique who can barely cover himself..since majority of our attack flows through Alba's side and not the right hand side... With the small teams yes maybe we can get away with Roberto but even there Semedo is definitely a upgrade over him as a defender..

Plus we are not favourites in the CL not because Messi is 33 but because Valverde plays his favourites, dire tactics and his stupid system with Roberto as RB and his Busquets-Rakitic snoozefest in midfield..and his tactics primarily is to park the bus and hope Messi saves the day and these players are ill-suited for these tactics.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
In Valverde's system, Messi decides if we win a trophy or not, not Roberto or Semedo..Plus it would still be better to have Semedo to provide better cover for Pique who can barely cover himself..since majority of our attack flows through Alba's side and not the right hand side... With the small teams yes maybe we can get away with Roberto but even there Semedo is definitely a upgrade over him as a defender..

Plus we are not favourites in the CL not because Messi is 33 but because Valverde plays his favourites, dire tactics and his stupid system with Roberto as RB and his Busquets-Rakitic snoozefest in midfield..and his tactics primarily is to park the bus and hope Messi saves the day and these players are ill-suited for these tactics.

We won 1 CL in 6 years before EV, so maybe we are not as good as you think, or our problems are deeper than EV.
He is not good for CL, though.

Look, if you say that it doesn't matter whether Roberto or Semedo play at Camp Nou vs Getafe, since Messi is the only factor, well then we could play with Busi, Raki, Paulinho instead of Frenkie, Arthur, Coutinho, if you get me?
Since NOTHING matters except Messi?

But it is not that way.
We need technique and an attacking threat against weaker teams, and that is in roughly 80% of La liga matches.

In La liga this season:
Roberto 7 assists
Semedo 0 assists

Semedo has only 4 key passes in a whole La liga season, in 1602 minutes.
That is 1 key pass each 400 minutes.
Semedo needs 4 and a half matches to make one key pass.

Roberto has 30 (lol) key passes in 2089 minutes in La liga, which is 1 key pass each 70 minutes.

Statistically, if you would play Roberto for 38 matches and Semedo for 38 matches, at this rate, they would produce:
Roberto= 49 key passes in 38 matches
Semedo= 8,5 key passes in 38 matches

Now, imagine if you play Las Palmas, Girona, Getafe at home.
Which guy is more likely to create key passes, build up and assists?
A guy with 49 or 8 key passes per season?

THIS is why Roberto is a starter in La liga.
Him being a starter in a Cl is a mistake, I agree with you.
 

Zidane82

Well-known member
We won 1 CL in 6 years before EV, so maybe we are not as good as you think, or our problems are deeper than EV.
He is not good for CL, though.

Look, if you say that it doesn't matter whether Roberto or Semedo play at Camp Nou vs Getafe, since Messi is the only factor, well then we could play with Busi, Raki, Paulinho instead of Frenkie, Arthur, Coutinho, if you get me?
Since NOTHING matters except Messi?

But it is not that way.
We need technique and an attacking threat against weaker teams, and that is in roughly 80% of La liga matches.

In La liga this season:
Roberto 7 assists
Semedo 0 assists

Semedo has only 4 key passes in a whole La liga season, in 1602 minutes.
That is 1 key pass each 400 minutes.
Semedo needs 4 and a half matches to make one key pass.

Roberto has 30 (lol) key passes in 2089 minutes in La liga, which is 1 key pass each 70 minutes.

Statistically, if you would play Roberto for 38 matches and Semedo for 38 matches, at this rate, they would produce:
Roberto= 49 key passes in 38 matches
Semedo= 8,5 key passes in 38 matches

Now, imagine if you play Las Palmas, Girona, Getafe at home.
Which guy is more likely to create key passes, build up and assists?
A guy with 49 or 8 key passes per season?

THIS is why Roberto is a starter in La liga.
Him being a starter in a Cl is a mistake, I agree with you.

Roberto should be a squad player at best .., he’s a mediocre midfielder.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
According to MD's front cover page.

Wague is the primary replacement while Emerson and Sidibé are the alternatives. Sidibé would be a downgrade on Semedo. He was pretty good a couple of years ago, and he stalled out and got a number of injuries. At this point, you might as well just stick with Wague if Semedo really does leave.

The way Catalan media is saying that the club has no interest in selling him but if he does go it seems the club will mostly go with Wague and use the cash to invest in other areas of the squad such as an LB etc.
 

mia7007

New member
Sidibe is so stupid option. Either to get someone better like Cancelo or Kimich (almost impossible) or keep Roberto and Wague and leave Emerson to get more experience and use the money we will get from him in other signings.
I am more concerned about De Light more than Semedo
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Roberto doesn't need to be sold.

But there needs to be a realization by the club and coach that Roberto isn't good enough to be our number 1 RB regardless of Semedo being good enough or not. We have seen how good he can be and at best he's good enough to be a Utility player and there's nothing wrong with that.

Lucho's turned him into a very useful utility player when needed but I think Lucho got everything out of him talent wise that we were going to get from him and I actually enjoyed Roberto at RB in the 15-16 and a good portion of the 16/17 season more so than under Valverde. As he seemed more ballsier and adventurous going forward than the last couple of seasons under Valverde.

Either way, if Semedo isn't the guy, I hope Wague can prove to be a contender if he does indeed replace Semedo.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Wague is not a youth product, he was just bought last season. He's promising but is nowhere near Semedo's level currently, make of that what you will.

No question that Semedo is unhappy with how he has been used by Valverde and absolutely no problem with him wanting to leave - it's normal, just as it could be for many in the squad due to his bizarre rotations. However, if Semedo is sold or used as a bargaining chip to bring Griezmann's fee down a legitimate starting RB is needed. Cannot go into the season with Wague & Roberto alone - would be a disaster

Kimmich won't be sold by Bayern & Trent Arnold neither by Liverpool, I'd consider Wan-Bissaka who others are already pursuing
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Fucking Valverde has been a disaster on all fronts. I hate the fucker with a passion.

Semedo is the best right back at Barca but that 🤡 Shitverde still hasn't figured that out.
 

Gaudi

Senior Member
To me he looks like a player that will shine in some other club.
He has, on paper, everything for great FB, speed, agility, god enough technique...of course improving is always desirable but looks to have all the ingridients.
Now, is theory here wrong, and in real life it's only good on paper but he's not that kind of a players or is it up to our sytle and coach?
I think the latter.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Wague has shown more offensively in his 3 games playing mostly with our backups than Semedo has in two years.
 

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