Neymar Jr. - v5

[BBZ8800]

These comparisons are just so bad.. They played completely different roles than Neymar, its his job to go for those 1v1's, to provoke fauls, if he wasn't Neymar and playing for Barcelona he would win a yellow card every 5 minutes.

Did you talk with a coach and a coach told you that Neymar's job is to provoke fauls, go into 1vs1s all the time etc?

If a coach told him that, then a coach is also an idiot then.
And also, there is a difference between:
1) touching the ball 30 times per match and go into 5-6-7-8 solo actions, when you "feel" that it is a perfect moment and playing "normal" actions/simple passes in other 22-25 occasions
2) touching the ball 30 times per match and more or less go EVERY SINGLE time into a solo action (not too different than Adama's style) regardless if you are 20 or 60 meters away from an opponent's goal and regardless whether you have 2 or 8 opponents infront of you

Of course that his job is to dribble, try to create chances etc.
But again, you need to have some brains and football feeling about when to try a solo action.

If you are attempting a solo action in more or less any opportunity, then:
1. either your coach is an idiot, if that was his tactical idea
2. that wasn't your coach's tactical idea, and your coach can't control you/or is afraid to tell you to use your brain a little more often
3. or Neymar is just one of the dumbest players around in terms of decisions

 

[springfield]

Ok so Neymar is an average winger and it's his fault that Barcelona has bad games. Still Barcelona had games were he was far the best player and was the reason why they won and finished the season with 3th most assists. Barcelona is not losing the battle on the right wing. How can he be the reason that the midfield is struggling and that they could not control the game in the midfield? If you can't win the game on the midfield, then you have a big problem as a team. You can't build up your attacks, you can't prevent the opposition to build up an attack. Some people really don't have a clue how football works. If your defence needs to play the ball to the front line, then you know you will probably lose the game.

Take a look at the game Barcelona is playing last years and how they have won some games with the performance of MSN, and now think again why Barcelona didn't had much success last season.

 

[clemente]

Did you talk with a coach and a coach told you that Neymar's job is to provoke fauls, go into 1vs1s all the time etc?

If a coach told him that, then a coach is also an idiot then.
And also, there is a difference between:
1) touching the ball 30 times per match and go into 5-6-7-8 solo actions, when you "feel" that it is a perfect moment and playing "normal" actions/simple passes in other 22-25 occasions
2) touching the ball 30 times per match and more or less go EVERY SINGLE time into a solo action (not too different than Adama's style) regardless if you are 20 or 60 meters away from an opponent's goal and regardless whether you have 2 or 8 opponents infront of you

Of course that his job is to dribble, try to create chances etc.
But again, you need to have some brains and football feeling about when to try a solo action.

If you are attempting a solo action in more or less any opportunity, then:
1. either your coach is an idiot, if that was his tactical idea
2. that wasn't your coach's tactical idea, and your coach can't control you/or is afraid to tell you to use your brain a little more often
3. or Neymar is just one of the dumbest players around in terms of decisions

The ignorance is on some whole another level, do you honestly believe you know better than the coaches? Jesus... He helps to make our attack unpredictable, our all front 3 play very different play styles, even when they have this mess playing behind them they still constantly score the most goals in all of the europe top leagues, Neymar is a big reason for that.

 

[Barcaman]

Ok so Neymar is an average winger and it's his fault that Barcelona has bad games. Still Barcelona had games were he was far the best player and was the reason why they won and finished the season with 3th most assists.

Sergi Roberto was our 2nd best performer for a good while at the start of the season. So?

"3rd most assists?" Woow. Impressive for a future Ballon that happens to be 25. How many goals did he have while you're counting?


No logic in your post mate.


Don't think BBZ ever claimed Neymar was just an average player either. It's how he fits (or doesn't) in our setup and his lack of intelligence and decision-making on the pitch.

 

[Messi983]

Oh, the Neymar thread is back.

 

[springfield]

Sergi Roberto was our 2nd best performer for a good while at the start of the season. So?

"3rd most assists?" Woow. Impressive for a future Ballon that happens to be 25. How many goals did he have while you're counting?


No logic in your post mate.


Don't think BBZ ever claimed Neymar was just an average player either. It's how he fits (or doesn't) in our setup and his lack of intelligence and decision-making on the pitch.

Yes he did, he said he's an average winger. Look at the other wingers from other clubs, how many assists and goals do they have? Look at other seasons, how many goals and assists did neymar have compared to others in la liga? How many assists and goals did other wingers have before Neymar was at Barcelona? You act like his stats are low for a Barcelona player, but it's not low.

Maybe some have another view on it. But he has the skills to do it. I'm sure with the new season, and if the team starts to play well again he will perform again like before. Saying that his playing style is one of the reason why Barcelona was bad is exaggerated. The whole team didn't perform well. Even Busquets had a disgraceful season. There were just to many factors which made them fail.

 

[ATLBarcaFan]

Sergi Roberto was our 2nd best performer for a good while at the start of the season. So?

"3rd most assists?" Woow. Impressive for a future Ballon that happens to be 25. How many goals did he have while you're counting?


No logic in your post mate.


Don't think BBZ ever claimed Neymar was just an average player either. It's how he fits (or doesn't) in our setup and his lack of intelligence and decision-making on the pitch.

Hold the presses, [MENTION=2]Bojan[/MENTION] jumping on the negative Neymar train, absolutely shocking

 

[serghei]

Imo, Lucho used Neymar's individual quality and skill too much to create dinamics and to develop attacks in a forced, unsustainable way.

 

[GetIn]

Closest Ney will ever get to the Ballon D'or in his career. Although he is one of the most marketable players in the world (prerequisite for the award), he will need to score 40+ goals in a CL winning campaign as the main man.

Not happening.

Not matter how much Messi declines he will never be worse than Neymar currently is and by the time he finally retires Ney will be 30-31, lose the majority of his pace and become a significantly worse player.

People need to cut the "future Ballon D'or" winner crap out, bar a minor miracle, there in no chance it happens.

The guy is 25 now, going to turn 26 this season, it's now or never. If he craps the bed yet again I'm not opposed to offloading him for 200-300m and completely restructuring our squad. There is also a good possibility Neymar has already peaked and we've seen the best of him as a footballer.

 

[Neeraj]

I agree with one point - If Neymar under delivers next season, it wouldn't be a bad time to offload him for a world record fee. I can't see us competing with the other clubs in terms of being able to spend in the market till a lot of changes occur at how our club functions. We could really boost our squad if the right players were there for the taking.

Also, Neymar has never struck me as someone who is going to remain loyal to one club and he might be planning on moving fairly soon anyway. Let's hope he has a fantastic season next year, we really need his skill; but in case it doesn't pan out that way, I think we could look at cashing in.

 

[JamDav1982]

He never 'crapped the bed' he was Barcelonas second best player last season and in amongst some frustrating games put in individual performances only Messi can match in the team or amongst just about any player out there.

Produces stats that no wide player bar Messi has matched in recent years and works like for the team.

Can clearly be frustrating at times but nowhere close to the way made out by BBZ and his manufactured stats.

 

[GetIn]

He never 'crapped the bed' he was Barcelonas second best player last season and in amongst some frustrating games put in individual performances only Messi can match in the team or amongst just about any player out there.

Second best player in a team where every player bar Messi massively underachieved, I wouldn't say that's too big of an accomplishment. I don't hate the guy at all and would like to see nothing more than him succeeding here, but he is just to frustrating at times with his decision making, especially this season in particular.

What can he not do?:

Shooting: Check
Passing: Check
Dribbling: Double Check

He has all the tools to be successful and the best in the world someday, but he hasn't put those gifts together yet for much longer than a couple 4-5 month stretches and I fear at this stage in his career he may never be able to.

He often plays like a highly rated player in a FIFA game that is being controlled by the computer. Immense skill, no end product.

 

[Jallo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-Neymar-awkward-ex-girlfriend-encounter.html

He is embarrassing, he spends every summer embrassing himself. Maybe we should consider offers this summer. The only thing worser than his goal-conversion rate is his marriage proposal success rate. The stupid hair, every summer I forget how good he is. Sell him and bring dembele and Mbappe

 

[JamDav1982]

Second best player in a team where every player bar Messi massively underachieved, I wouldn't say that's too big of an accomplishment. I don't hate the guy at all and would like to see nothing more than him succeeding here, but he is just to frustrating at times with his decision making, especially this season in particular.

What can he not do?:

Shooting: Check
Passing: Check
Dribbling: Double Check

He has all the tools to be successful and the best in the world someday, but he hasn't put those gifts together yet for much longer than a couple 4-5 month stretches and I fear at this stage in his career he may never be able to.

He often plays like a highly rated player in a FIFA game that is being controlled by the computer. Immense skill, no end product.

Wasnt the case that every player bar Messi massively underachieved. Neymar had a very good season, so did Suarez overall depsite not being as good as in past. Busi, Umititi and Ter Stegen all had good seasons overall.

He cant shoot? Scoring more goals for Barca than any wide player bar Messi. Check.
He cant pass? Most passes per game in MSN last season and most chances created. Check.
He cant dribble? Most succesful dribbles in the team and from stats on who scored etc he is not massively more losing the ball for those number of dribbles. Check.

He also works as hard and is arguably the fittest player in the squad and doesnt shirk the defensive side of game. All that matters.

Absolutely he has games he is frustrating in and tries too much but what he produces massively outweighs that.

 

[JamDav1982]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...r-Neymar-awkward-ex-girlfriend-encounter.html

He is embarrassing, he spends every summer embrassing himself. Maybe we should consider offers this summer. The only thing worser than his goal-conversion rate is his marriage proposal success rate. The stupid hair, every summer I forget how good he is. Sell him and bring dembele and Mbappe

Only one who looks embarrassing posting that rubbish is you I am afraid.