Neymar Jr. - v5

I can underestand people are angry on Neymar. But the first responsible is Barto. He didn't anticipate the move whereas last year he was already close to sign for Paris.

He pretends he did. Fuck barto too, he's been a hopeless fucker for 90% of the people on here and only has the one cheerleader.
Neymar is a gigantic asshole and his message to barca fans was empty, he didn't acknowledge having done wrong, and is probably stupid enough to actually believe that like some on here :lol:
 

Arkk

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I can underestand people are angry on Neymar. But the first responsible is Barto. He didn't anticipate the move whereas last year he was already close to sign for Paris.

oh don't worry we do blame Barto :lol: I think my and most of the Barca fans anger comes from the fact Neymar delayed his move there to collect 26m for his greedy father.. thus leaving us with 1 month to find a replacement
 

Lutece FC

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oh don't worry we do blame Barto :lol: I think my and most of the Barca fans anger comes from the fact Neymar delayed his move there to collect 26m for his greedy father.. thus leaving us with 1 month to find a replacement
It's the market. Until the close, everybody can sign where he wants. I don't think it's linked with the 26M€ but more with legal obligations with Nike and other parteners.
Everybody knew his decisions weeks before, Dani Alves, his friends, all the Barca board...

Barto is a clown. We have no future with him. He should resign now. The club has plenty of money, but nobody is avaible on the market, maybe Dembele but not sure.
 

jj_101

New member
lol hypocrites the lot of you. Your club does the same thing to get players that neymar did to you.

You have the likes of former players like xavi or Ronaldinho saying what great things they'd do here. Then it's the current players like pique who state or post a message about said player. Then you'd get the Catalan media doing your bidding on social media and in print. So don't be hypocrites please.

Hey I understand it's the nature of the game and I accept it because it's a dog it dog world. Hell we do it ourselves even this summer with van dijk. So we are just as guilty as Barca, but I admit it and am no hypocrite.
You're right.
P.S. Thanks for Coutinho.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
130m for Coutinho? ffs..that Neymar deal screwed us in so many ways. We have money but what good when you can't buy shit since everyone and their mother doesn't want to sell this late in the window?! Plus, they demand exorbitant fees for their players. If the fucker would've come clean at the end of the season and said that he wants to move, even less money than the clause would have been more favorable than this clusterfuck.

At this point I'd go for Mbappe + Seri and call it a day. Seems to me Monaco would more easily cash in this summer than the others and Seri has a 40m agreement with Nice. Go for Inigo too if that is what Valverde wants. Try to smoothen things with Dortmund for Dembele for next year.

Of course, Mbappe could reject us but at least talk with Monaco and Mbappe to see if he would consider us at least.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Imagine spending 220 million on Mbappe and Seri lol

I see the counter solutions are well thought out. Bravo!

I did not say that we should throw the kitchen sink at Mbappe. We have straight cash to offer. No installments, just money upfront. Maybe Monaco would be willing to lower the asking price if they'd get the money right away. We should try something like 130m + some bonuses doing the business. Could also involve Nike here. Seri + Inigo then for around 70m and we'd still remain with 20m + our remaining transfer money.

Though it means feck all if we at least don't try to see if it can be done. We have major issues as it is, explore some different shit at least. That's what they are paid for. Coming up with solutions, not just beating the same dead horse over and over again, hoping they change their mind. What if they don't?
 
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Lutece FC

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Apparently Barca is trying to get time by refusing the transfer in the spanish federation. They want to give time to UEFA, to refuse the transfer. Who the fuck add a clause on the Neymar's contract ?

Shame on Barto. How many players from Ligue 1 joined Barca without problem ? This is shameful and smell rage and only rage. it's like when a girl refuse you, and choose another one, and you want to punish the other one.
 

kilian

Senior Member
I don`t know what exactly are you talking about, but it would be a beautiful story if we got our money and PSG bitches together with Neymar get punished. I think 99 percent of football fans around the world would laugh and enjoy that moment.

I mean 300 million euros to be a WC ambassador and then gifting him to PSG and acting everything is by the book. Cringeworthy stuff. Definitely deserves a big "fuck you" from the footballing world.
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
"Apparently". It takes time to count 222M Euros. Maybe you paid with counterfeit money.

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George_Costanza

Active member
Apparently Barca is trying to get time by refusing the transfer in the spanish federation. They want to give time to UEFA, to refuse the transfer. Who the fuck add a clause on the Neymar's contract ?

Shame on Barto. How many players from Ligue 1 joined Barca without problem ? This is shameful and smell rage and only rage. it's like when a girl refuse you, and choose another one, and you want to punish the other one.

who cares about PSG internal issues...
 

Messi983

Senior Member
I see the counter solutions are well thought out. Bravo!

I did not say that we should throw the kitchen sink at Mbappe. We have straight cash to offer. No installments, just money upfront. Maybe Monaco would be willing to lower the asking price if they'd get the money right away. We should try something like 130m + some bonuses doing the business. Could also involve Nike here. Seri + Inigo then for around 70m and we'd still remain with 20m + our remaining transfer money.

I get what you're saying but I think the board will prefer to pay 10-20M more (or include that money as bonuses) and still use installments than just pay all money upfront. We probably won't have 222M in cash to spend again in the near future so it would be dangerous to do that now because clubs would take notice and would demand as much money upfront again in future transfers but then we won't have that money.

Using your Mbappe's example I think they (board) would rather pay 150M+bonuses in 3-4 years instalments than pay 130M upfront. Of course if we could get that price down to 70-80M if we'd pay at once then they would do that but there is no way Monaco would accept to drop price that much just to get more money upfront (they don't need money that much after all players they've already sold). If we can lower total fee for "just" 10-20M then I think the board will prefer to stick with how big transfers are usually paid, so with instalments but it's possible our first instalment would be 60-70M instead of 40-50M.

That's also what I think Bartomeu meant when he said we won't use whole Neymar's money just to buy players. It doesn't mean we won't spend (more than) 222M in total fees for new players but using instalments in those transfers it's possible we'll "only" pay 150-170M (or maybe even less) upfront so we could use 20-30M of Neymar's cash to start renovation of Camp Nou and save the rest for next years.

I don't think we'll get Mbappe so I'll use Coutinho and Dembele who are our primary targets now alongside Inigo Martinez who I believe is already a done deal though we'll probably try to negotiate with Sociedad so they'll accept his transfer (so in the end we'll maybe pay 35M instead of 32M if we succeed with that but we'll keep good relationship with them) and we won't have to pay taxes as if he'd use his buy out clause.

Let's say we'll pay:

120M for Coutinho: 70M upfront, 20M in 2018 and 30M in 2019
110M for Dembele: 60M upfront, 30M in 2018 and 20M in 2019
32M for Inigo: all upfront as we'll have to pay his clause

So in total we'd pay 262M, but only 162M from that would be paid this summer.

Of course those numbers are just example and I have no idea if Liverpool and/or Dortmund will sell under those terms if they will sell at all.
 

Julien

New member
Apparently Barca is trying to get time by refusing the transfer in the spanish federation. They want to give time to UEFA, to refuse the transfer. Who the fuck add a clause on the Neymar's contract ?

Shame on Barto. How many players from Ligue 1 joined Barca without problem ? This is shameful and smell rage and only rage. it's like when a girl refuse you, and choose another one, and you want to punish the other one.
What are you smoking?

UEFA can't refuse a transfer. They can only punish PSG relatively to european cups (CL, Europa League).

The transfer is done, it can't be reversed.
 

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