Horatio
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I am not arguing Ligue 1 is more or less physical than La Liga, but whether it was more defensive or not.
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I am not arguing Ligue 1 is more or less physical than La Liga, but whether it was more defensive or not.
Messi would be a perfect in any phisical league because of his low center of gravity.
Ligue 1 is very pschical in fact you can see how most of foreings playes of EpL are from France
However said that, any top team who score 100 goals in a League would score in similar way in another league. The average quality is more or less the same, with EPl being little better. Football has changed a lot, an organizzated and aggressive team can put in trouble a much better team in the paper, come in my mind the game of Argentina in the world Cup 2014 against Iran.
There is not a great differenze between the 5 top League in terms of average quality. If Psg score 5 against Dijon would score in similar way against girona, Sassuolo or Stoke City.is just that you have better competions in EPL, Serie A and la Liga, but mediocre teams Who are the most are still mediocre, so a player who score 35 in a league would score maybe 30 with a team of similar quality in a better league.
You can see that in UCL. A top player is an top top player in any league, Mahrez coming from Ligue 2 and dominated EPL
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Jair Ventura
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Ligue 1 is producing more technical players than La Liga at the moment imo: Mbappe, Dembele, Lemar, Fekir, Rabiot, JKA, etc. Spain isn’t producing that level of talent this generation. Not as consistently, at least.
They don't represent the average player of Ligue 1.
They are a singolarity.
Most of Ligue 1 players are black. Muscolar, strong and tall often with a average techinical ability.
While the average player of La Ligue is short with a low center of gravity and delicate feet.
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Horatio
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Not sure if it's true. Maybe players just have more space in Ligue 1 to show their technical strengths because of overall weaker opposition.
Jair Ventura
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French football is more defensive than Spanish so I’m not sure this is the case. What sets La Liga apart is Barcelona and Real Madrid, not the mid and bottom table teams imo.
Again?
Dembele was a beast in Lingue 1 and was as good if not better in Bundes. I need to talk about Mbappe?
Hazard was a dominant player in Ligue 1 is a dominant player in Epl. What you are talking are just wronge preconceptions.
henias
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[MENTION=16494]Neymessi[/MENTION] Nah, complete nonsense. Just one rainbow flick and that sums up his "style"and people's general hate for his "style"? That's just one particular incident against Bilbao where they didnt like rainbow flicks and just find it humiliating. That doesnt represent every other teams. Go pick any Neymar comps to watch especially from 2015/16 and just count how many times he falls to the ground, its crazy. Non-fouls and fouls, as long theres a slight bit of contact, he will be sent flying. I'm bringing Messi and Hazard in bcos they are the ones whose dribbling stats is closest to Neymar's and in their case, they similarly too have suffered many fouls, completed many dribbles yet I dont necessarily see a big fuss just bcos they are brought down by opponents. Sure u could say Messi may have a lower center of gravity, but Neymar's just seems a tad bit over-dramatic. Of course fouls are legimitate but who really knows? Even against PSG, Neymar's "fall" in the box draws quite a bit of skeptism. But the desire of Messi to keep going whilst Neymar's more willingness to go down to get that call for foul is quite clear. And I'm comparing both their best dribbling seasons - Messi's 2010/2011 and Neymar's 2015/2016.
Unless he is doing somersauts while dribbling, theres nothing so special about it.
Both equally fouled as much but I just dont see Messi get fired up and square on people just bcos he's gets "picked on" defenders. So simply, no legitimate excuse for Neymar.
Unless he is doing somersauts while dribbling, theres nothing so special about it.
Both equally fouled as much but I just dont see Messi get fired up and square on people just bcos he's gets "picked on" defenders. So simply, no legitimate excuse for Neymar.
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JamDav1982
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Hazard being great player in France and England doesnt mean all that much other than top players will be good in any league.
Although he scored more goals in his last season in France than ever has in England.
Dembele was a year older at Dortmund and in a better team. Him doing well doesnt really say anything other than he is a very good young player who is developing.
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Horatio
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Time to change that name to Ace Ventura or something, admit you're Brazilian and be done with it.
And Kante has never been that good in France as he is in England.
Hazard scored only 4 more goals, and in others season has never scored more than 7.
Mean nothing.
I'm italian
JamDav1982
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Hazard was a young player of course he wasnt great season after season in France but as a better player he has not had same impact in terms of goals etc.
If Hazard means nothing dont bring him up.
Yoir argument means nothing unless anyone is claiming every player ever to play in France has not been good enough to succeed elsewhere. Which no one is saying.
Clearly the French league is not on par with top leagues in Europe.
I said mean nothing scoring 4 more goals. If you belive that their is a great differenze in scoring 16 or 20 goals, that is you opinion not an argument.
Hazard has the potential to score even 25 or 30 goals if he is puted in the right team like Man City. Chelsea is a difensive team, they create nothing for Hazard.
The average quality is more or less the same, is just that serie A, la Liga and premier (for me not Bundes) have more top teams, but the mediocre teams have more or less the same mediocrity.
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