Neymar Jr. - v5

[Jair Ventura]

His style of play isn't too dissimilar from Messi's. He can sometimes be more selfish, but for the most part, they both like to have the ball at their feet.

 

[JamDav1982]

Clearly another guy who jumps in the bandwagon and doesnt grasp what I'm trying to say. I'm not even talking about his ability and what he can do, but how he plays his own style of game by dropping deep like Messi, two people trying to dribble pass to Suarez and Gomes and you think that will result in anything? lol. Be realistic here. He's should have played like in 2014/15 and not emulate the no.10 role too much.

Both he and Messi could not play any other way last season really.

The team balance was off and there was no quick balls to them on the counter in same way there was in treble season.

Both dropped deep and tried risky dribbles/passes with ten men on front of them as had to or team creates fuck all. It was nigh and day to treb in 2015.

 

[henias]

His style of play isn't too dissimilar from Messi's. He can sometimes be more selfish, but for the most part, they both like to have the ball at their feet.

Nothing against him being as good as Messi but how he tried to play the Messi role. Against Juventus, he was playing very deep as an attacking midfielder alongside Messi and tried to long pass to Suarez and Iniesta and the other midfielders were literally ball watching Neymar and Messi run the show. It should be the other way round.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nothing against him being as good as Messi but how he tried to play the Messi role. Against Juventus, he was playing very deep as an attacking midfielder alongside Messi and tried to long pass to Suarez and Iniesta and the other midfielders were literally ball watching Neymar and Messi run the show. It should be the other way round.

That is my point.

There is no way Messi and Neymar cant coexist have seen them in proper system and they made up 2/3 of best front line of all time.

Even with shitty tactics both were amongst top players in world but just not given that platform to go and affect the game as much.

 

[Horatio]

Clearly another guy who jumps in the bandwagon and doesnt grasp what I'm trying to say. I'm not even talking about his ability and what he can do, but how he plays his own style of game by dropping deep like Messi, two people trying to dribble pass to Suarez and Gomes and you think that will result in anything? lol. Be realistic here. He's should have played like in 2014/15 and not emulate the no.10 role too much.

You believe the team performed poorly because of Neymar playing like that. I believe Neymar played like that because of the team playing poorly for different reasons.
The dude created around 150 chances in 2015/16 ffs. lol

Guess no point in arguing further.

 

[henias]

You believe the team performed poorly because of Neymar playing like that. I believe Neymar played like that because of the team playing poorly for different reasons.
The dude created around 150 chances in 2015/16 ffs. lol

Guess no point in arguing further.

Trying to inject that "what he can do" and "his achievements" again. Even after explaining so much. U dont really have to edit that in. Lmao.

What do u think Jordi Alba or other players can do when Neymar is having the ball and trying to dribble past 10 men? Magically appear behind the defence? Enough with ur BS lol.

 

[henias]

That is my point.

There is no way Messi and Neymar cant coexist have seen them in proper system and they made up 2/3 of best front line of all time.

Even with shitty tactics both were amongst top players in world but just not given that platform to go and affect the game as much.

I agree with u. Partly. But he should still tone down on that over dribbling, and try to make more runs, wait for Messi's pass which could have been more trouble for the opposition.

 

[JamDav1982]

Trying to inject that "what he can do" and "his achievements" again. Even after explaining so much. U dont really have to edit that in. Lmao.

What do u think Jordi Alba or other players can do when Neymar is having the ball and trying to dribble past 10 men? Magically appear behind the defence? Enough with ur BS lol.

That Neymar who created more chances than anyone else in the team but you try to make out destroyed the attack.

Wouldnt be case if he was dribbling into blind alleys as much as you make out.

 

[JamDav1982]

I agree with u. Partly. But he should still tone down on that over dribbling, and try to make more runs, wait for Messi's pass which could have been more trouble for the opposition.

That is true and could see him getting frustrated last season and he did over do it at times. So to did Messi but he tried too many risky passes at times rather than trying to dictate.

Both were frustrated could see it.

Still both were class across the season but so much of team going forward was reliant on magic rather than team play it just wasnt enough.

 

[henias]

That Neymar who created more chances than anyone else in the team but you try to make out destroyed the attack.

Wouldnt be case if he was dribbling into blind alleys as much as you make out.

Definitely not like a video game type of solo dribbles but in real life, it's really a tad bit excessive and unnecessary in some occassions.

 

[JamDav1982]

Definitely not like a video game type of solo dribbles but in real life, it's really a tad bit excessive and unnecessary in some occassions.

It is but all top players go over the top with risk taking at times.

After the Juve game I said on here I think he will leave due to not being given platform to perform or influence those type games enough. That was long before it was mentioned to PSG again as real chance.
He just looked unhappy and frustrated as fuck.

 

[Horatio]

Trying to inject that "what he can do" and "his achievements" again. Even after explaining so much. U dont really have to edit that in. Lmao.

What do u think Jordi Alba or other players can do when Neymar is having the ball and trying to dribble past 10 men? Magically appear behind the defence? Enough with ur BS lol.

You didn't explain much at all. Only that Neymar shouldn't emulate the no.10 role. Which he did mostly his last season at Barca, negating how he looked the seasons before.

 

[BBZ8800]

BBZ tell us who has the most balanced team in CL in your opinion.

Fairly short answer all it takes.

EV's 442 Barca, Bayern and RM.
Chelsea and Psg are okish also.

I don't rate City's balance too much, for a CL level.

 

[JamDav1982]

EV's 442 Barca, Bayern and RM.

Haha no asked for one.

Those three between them become odds on.

 

[BBZ8800]

lol. If there is one club that fits Neymar the most it would be Barcelona.

I agree the ball hogging was annoying, but no one was mentioning that in 2014/15 and first half of 15/16.
I believe there are obvious reasons why we started seeing a lot of that later on.

We talked about that a million times.

Neymar pre Barca was a default Neymar.
Default Neymar is a player who dribbles all the time and hogs the ball.
Neymar in 2014 and 2015 was a player who played against his natural instincts.
He played fast, simple and efficient.
Sadly, he couldn't play for too long againts his natural instincts and soon returned to a classical Neymar who slows down the play, is overcomplicating things and is not effective.

But I guess that you will say that he played weaker after 2015 because of Lucho, poor midfield and similar.

Remember, when playing for Brazil NT, he plays with different midfielders.
Yet, he plays again like a classical Neymar, who dribbles way too much and killing a flow of a team (Brazil in that case).
He is scoring for Brazil, so it may mask his flaws.
But the point stands: he plays like a classical, default Neymar.