Neymar Jr.

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KingLeo10

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If he comes back, gets in top shape, and plays disciplined like 14/15 - almost certainly too much to ask - but if that happens then a neymar - griezo - messi front line would kill anyone.
 

Devils

Senior Member
Neymar/Dembouz - Griezmann - Messi
Arthur - FDJ - Vidal
Firpo - Todibo - Lenglet - Semedo
Neto​

Football will be monopolized.

We move.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Neymar/Dembouz - Griezmann - Messi
Arthur - FDJ - Vidal
Firpo - Todibo - Lenglet - Semedo
Neto​

Football will be monopolized.

We move.

but then you see this guy on the coaching bench

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BBZ8800

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Of course, just saying the figures BBZ was guessing with the 800m spent and 300m in return were nonsense.

Barto's last years on Transfermarkt:
2014:
In: Suarez 82, Mathieu 20, Verm 19, Raki 18, Bravo 12, Mats 12, Douglas 4=168
Out: Alexis 43, Fab 33, Tello 3, Krkic 2, JDS 1=82
= total: -86m

2015:
Arda 34, Vidal 17
Out: Pedro 27, Deulo 6, Denis 4, Montoya 1
= 51 vs 38=-13m

2016:
In: Gomes 37, Paco 30, Umtiti 25, Digne 17, Cillessen 13, Denis 3=125m
Out: Bravo 18, Bartra 8, Halil 5, Adriano 2=33m
= -92m

2017:
In: Cou 145, Dembele 125, Paulinho 40, Semedo 36, Deulo 12, Mina 12, Marlon 5=375m
Out: Neymar 222, Masch 6, Tello 4, Deulo 1=233m
= -138m

2018:
In: Malcom 41, Leng 36, Arthur 31, Vidal 18, loans 3=129
Out: Pau 42, Mina 30, Digne 20, Deulo 13, Vidal 9, Marlon 6, loans 15=135
= +6

2019:
In: Griezz 120, Frenkie 75, Neto 26, Firpo 18, Emerson 12, Cucu 4=255
Out: Malcom 40, Cill 35, Gomes 25, Paco 21, Denis 13, Cou 9, small transfers 12=155
= -100 before Neymar

But also, Dembele's transfer is 145m with addons.
Cou's is 165 with addons.
Transfermarkt has lower values.
Also, you don't have money for agents here.
We paid to Frenkie's agent, right? But you can see here only 75 transfer fee paid to Ajax.
Also, Neymar's transfer to Barca in 2014 was first reported as a 70m, later 84m iirc. While in reality, criminals Rosell and Barto paid 30-50M more to his father, 3rd parties, to Santos for rights on some random young players=smart accounting and cheating.
Rosell ended in a jail for that.
Not to mention that on this list we don't have: net wages, gross wages, bonuses for titles or individual achievements. Or: loyalty bonuses.

But still, even from transfermarkt numbers, since 2014/15 season, we have spent:
-86m
-13m
-92m
-138m
+6
-100 this season BEFORE Neymar
= total, Barto's transfers= -323m before Neymar.
Now, add 170 or 200m for Neymar and that is -500m deficit in the last 5 years.
WITHOUT 105m gross wages for Messi per year.
80m gross wages for Neymar per year.
Busi, Suarez, Dembele, Pique and their wages.
Add money given off the table, loyalty bonuses, money paid to agents and 3rd parties, addons which weren't added on transfermarkt.
Again, without all of these, that is still -500 only in the last 5 years of our dear Barto.
On wages alone, we are spending probably 400-500m gross per season.
Add 500m debts from the past, iirc.
Add 100m loan for Griezmann.
Add new 200m for Neymar.

You forgot the 222M PSG paid for Neymar.

I have realized that later.
It is not 800-ish but 600-ish M then.

Quite similar to transfermarkt numbers.
When you add agent fees and addons for 145m Dembele and 165m Coutinho.
 
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Messigician

Senior Member
It's done, stunning



Neymar Jr to FC Barcelona is done! Barcelona and PSG have reached an agreement for the Brazilian's transfer. Neymar will sign the official contract with Barça very soon, only the official announcement is pending right now.

More details to follow 🇧🇷

🗣️ [Fabrizio Romano]
 

JPM85

Member
Barto's last years on Transfermarkt:

Now, add 170 or 200m for Neymar and that is -500m deficit in the last 5 years.

500M on 5 years is nothing if you ask me for our club. We will always need to spend instead of earning on our transfer.
We are the top of the pyramid, meaning expensive incoming transfers & low value outgoing.

Our wage bill is more of a problem.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
In order to get Neymar, we will need to sell half of our team, lol.
Our depth will be gone:
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BarcaOG

Banned
dembele's time is up.. if the deal includes the frenchie's departure then itll be a great thing in my books. neymar and dembele may both be undisciplined but at least neymar can play football
 

Devils

Senior Member
Barto's last years on Transfermarkt:
2014:
In: Suarez 82, Mathieu 20, Verm 19, Raki 18, Bravo 12, Mats 12, Douglas 4=168
Out: Alexis 43, Fab 33, Tello 3, Krkic 2, JDS 1=82
= total: -86m

2015:
Arda 34, Vidal 17
Out: Pedro 27, Deulo 6, Denis 4, Montoya 1
= 51 vs 38=-13m

2016:
In: Gomes 37, Paco 30, Umtiti 25, Digne 17, Cillessen 13, Denis 3=125m
Out: Bravo 18, Bartra 8, Halil 5, Adriano 2=33m
= -92m

2017:
In: Cou 145, Dembele 125, Paulinho 40, Semedo 36, Deulo 12, Mina 12, Marlon 5=375m
Out: Neymar 222, Masch 6, Tello 4, Deulo 1=233m
= -138m

2018:
In: Malcom 41, Leng 36, Arthur 31, Vidal 18, loans 3=129
Out: Pau 42, Mina 30, Digne 20, Deulo 13, Vidal 9, Marlon 6, loans 15=135
= +6

2019:
In: Griezz 120, Frenkie 75, Neto 26, Firpo 18, Emerson 12, Cucu 4=255
Out: Malcom 40, Cill 35, Gomes 25, Paco 21, Denis 13, Cou 9, small transfers 12=155
= -100 before Neymar

But also, Dembele's transfer is 145m with addons.
Cou's is 165 with addons.
Transfermarkt has lower values.
Also, you don't have money for agents here.
We paid to Frenkie's agent, right? But you can see here only 75 transfer fee paid to Ajax.
Also, Neymar's transfer to Barca in 2014 was first reported as a 70m, later 84m iirc. While in reality, criminals Rosell and Barto paid 30-50M more to his father, 3rd parties, to Santos for rights on some random young players=smart accounting and cheating.
Rosell ended in a jail for that.
Not to mention that on this list we don't have: net wages, gross wages, bonuses for titles or individual achievements. Or: loyalty bonuses.

But still, even from transfermarkt numbers, since 2014/15 season, we have spent:
-86m
-13m
-92m
-138m
+6
-100 this season BEFORE Neymar
= total, Barto's transfers= -323m before Neymar.
Now, add 170 or 200m for Neymar and that is -500m deficit in the last 5 years.
WITHOUT 105m gross wages for Messi per year.
80m gross wages for Neymar per year.
Busi, Suarez, Dembele, Pique and their wages.
Add money given off the table, loyalty bonuses, money paid to agents and 3rd parties, addons which weren't added on transfermarkt.
Again, without all of these, that is still -500 only in the last 5 years of our dear Barto.
On wages alone, we are spending probably 400-500m gross per season.
Add 500m debts from the past, iirc.
Add 100m loan for Griezmann.
Add new 200m for Neymar.



I have realized that later.
It is not 800-ish but 600-ish M then.

Quite similar to transfermarkt numbers.
When you add agent fees and addons for 145m Dembele and 165m Coutinho.

Yes BBZ, transfer financing is the sole factor of debt accumulation and debt reduction at a club.
 
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