Neymar Jr.
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that is one ridiculous statement my man.
City is the best team by a margin imo. But they have that choking gene in them as well.
However, Barça has more "cracks". Not as good as a team but Messi, Neymar, Griezmann can win you a game at any time.
LABarcaFan
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Have you heard about the Boomerang effect? Whichever teams has over-pad in the last 2-3 years, it will come back to them next summer. We already have faced that problems with Coutinho and Dembele. If Neymar comes, which I doubt, we will kill our chances for transfers for the next 4-5 years. Barcelona, Man. Utd, Juventus, Arsenal, Real M and some other big name clubs will pay for their overpays. Soon or later.
LABarcaFan
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Congrats on your 50 th post. Keep going. You are doing good.
LABarcaFan
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And when you wake up, you will realize that you were dreaming.
Messi still injured and you never know when it can happen again.
Neymar still injured since June and you never know when he will suffer that ligament issue again.
Suarez is out for a month and already gone. He can not play anymore.
Dembele is out for a month and is very ineffective. That is why nobody does not want him.
Griezmann is still relatively young, but he is not the type of player, who can decide the game by himself.
Our back line with Pique and Lenglet is weak.
Busqets, Rakitic and Vidal are already washed up. Arthur is not that effective. Thanks God, we get Frankie de Jong.
So how you can see us as a heavy favorite to win over any team? Or win in the CL?
what a douche
LABarcaFan
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We have a little more than 48 hrs. left and I am sure they will meet over the weekend. Our delegation plus Bartomeu are still in Paris. But in the last 3-4 hrs. the news are almost the same. Barcelona does not want to pay 200 millions straight up-front. They wants to include Todibo, Rakitic and Dembele in the deal, which Leonardo accepted, but all 3 of them has refused to go move to Paris. In this case, I don't see how a deal can be reached.
Jadentheman
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Great now they need to get Dembele onboard and this deal is gold
Messigician
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Neymar remains optimistic and confident in signing for Barça [sport]
Messigician
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The next hours will be key for negotiations for Neymar. [sport] https://t.co/1ccnQXRma1
Jadentheman
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I still have faith in you [MENTION=23192]Messigician[/MENTION]
Messigician
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Psg confirm they want to sell, we want to buy.
Rakitic and Dembele just need to agree to go the other way, they are key to this deal and I hope they do the right thing they must leave for the good of the club and their career.
Lapi
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Also respectfully, but you are mistaken a bit in assuming that the FIFA FFP-rules are closely related to the sources of most player transactions.
The FIFA (and UEFA) FFP rules were established "to prevent professional football clubs spending more than they earn in the pursuit of success and in doing so getting into financial problems which might threaten their long-term survival".
The rules actually do NOT regulate the club's spending but rather - just as the paragraph says - tries to prevent financial disasters.
Obviously this is not the right place to quote the different sentences from the FFP but the rules(s) might be even relevant in Barca's case if they buy Neymar but the ACTUAL result will always be the same: namely the top rich clubs will always be allowed to buy and sell hyper-expensive players, simply because they will hardly ever spend more compared to their annual revenue.
Let's suppose Barca buys Neymar for 222M (I doubt it will actually happen), the very notion that they have sold the player for the same amount, actually nullifies the rule.
There are two clubs among the top European ones who have unlimited financial background and you exactly know who these clubs are and where the finances are coming from.
It is a MYTH that FIFA or UEFA will ever sanction these rich clubs with the petrol-dollars, because the FFP rules do not forbid sponsorship and the rules do NOT define an actual ceiling for the money received through sponsorship.
Obviously Barca wants to AVOID externally accepting this type of "blood-money" for a single player but believe me there are quite a few billionaires out there, who love football, love Neymar or the type he represents and wouldn't hesitate for a minute to offer it. Not as a profitable business transaction but just as a gift.
If you are in the States you should know that several American football players were solely purchased via private founds given and provided by private Maecenas, and the same stands for basketball, not to even mention hockey players in Canada.
The very same happened to PSG and Neymar, a billionaire has bought a valuable doll that nobody else could afford at that time. No sanctions, no problems because the FFP rules are for a different purpose.
Neymar is one of the best out there but even more importantly he is perhaps the most spectacular one as far as his style is concerned, so naturally he has many fans all over the world numbered in heavy millions, even if this forum suggests otherwise.
This is a typical scenario, where those "collecting their money from trees" would be happy to spend a small percentage on this purpose. That's a different question though if Barca would be in the strange position to ACCEPT these kind of sponsorship.
If Neymar came, he would agree for a pay-cut, would revoke his 26 million court case, which - as far as law is concerned - is ALSO a sponsorship by the player himself.
So Barca COULD most probably do that, if they wanted, but most probably they do not want to enter that path. But I'm sure that the club must have received offers that would easily cover the actual expenses.
Barca could and could have easily bought Neymar - if they wanted - therefore I start to believe that their actual offers were not serious and probably were to satisfy Messi and the elderly gang and probably also quite a few sponsors as well.
If Neymar's cost were say 200M, one needs to deduct 26M immediately, so it becomes 174 (PSG know that so that's why they started the drama at 300M).
Sponsors (not the private ones but the contracted officials) would have an immediate rise of profits, marketing operations could easily bring 50-60M for the club in 3-5 months time, hence the ACTUAL spending would be around 100-110 millions.
It's less than the fee the club spent on Griezmann, who is a great player but Neymar is an entirely different category.
If the club buys players like Arda, Alcacer, Umtiti or Lenglet, indeed the net expenditure is equal to the money being spent.
But Neymar, Messi, Ronaldo and a few others are exceptionally marketable figures, media-stars who also bring efficiently and effectively huge amounts, even without being on the pitch for a single minute.
This is what those constantly worrying for the club's money and financial situation (in which they do not actually have the slightest insight to) mention all the time, by not taking into account how marketable a player like Neymar is and how much extra money he could bring to the club.
(School is starting here on Monday, so I had to go with my daughter to buy the usual stuff for school. The shop was filled with exercise books, pen-holders and stuff like that with 4-5 Barca players on everything, so only people with the least fantasy can't imagine the value of these marginal sales all over the globe. The average young boy in my country has hardly any idea who Rakitic was but Neymar, Messi, Suarez - they just bring money by trucks for the club).
Hope this is understandable, or at least better to understand than the horrible panic-calculations that this BBZ guy and some others have been presenting day by day.
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