Neymar Jr.

[JamDav1982]

Why keep an unhappy player?

They pretty much know Neymars desire to win the CL and perform for Brazil would stop him downing tools or cause havoc.

Biggest issue for PSG would be Neymar running down contract, Mbappe running down contract and both being worth a lot less next summer. Then they have Di Maria getting older.

The only reason could see them selling Neymar is if wanted more money for him now and tried to rebuild front line.

Could easily see them wanting to take Dembele on loan and maybe try to use that to make Mbappe stick around a bit longer but in the end they wont negotiate that or for other Barca players when it is a waste of time and will most likely get turned down.

If it happens would be for less than 150m and in installments and it would be because PSG see it as best decision for them and not to avoid an unhappy player.

 

[Newcomer]

They pretty much know Neymars desire to win the CL and perform for Brazil would stop him downing tools or cause havoc.

Biggest issue for PSG would be Neymar running down contract, Mbappe running down contract and both being worth a lot less next summer. Then they have Di Maria getting older.

The only reason could see them selling Neymar is if wanted more money for him now and tried to rebuild front line.

Could easily see them wanting to take Dembele on loan and maybe try to use that to make Mbappe stick around a bit longer but in the end they wont negotiate that or for other Barca players when it is a waste of time and will most likely get turned down.

If it happens would be for less than 150m and in installments and it would be because PSG see it as best decision for them and not to avoid an unhappy player.

I don't see why PSG would loan Demb?l? to make Mbapp? stick around.

And you are right abut the fact that PSG would only sell because those players are left only 2 years on their contract and in 2021 the loss in value will be big.

Now, is it better to try a push next year with both of them or sell one (not optimal due to the crisis and no real top player on the market either)?

 

[JamDav1982]

I don't see why PSG would loan Demb?l? to make Mbapp? stick around.

And you are right abut the fact that PSG would only sell because those players are left only 2 years on their contract and in 2021 the loss in value will be big.

Now, is it better to try a push next year with both of them or sell one (not optimal due to the crisis and no real top player on the market either)?

Maybe Mbappe would want to stick around and play with Dembele for a few more years and try to win CL. Seem like enjoy playing together.

Even then PSG if both Neymar and Mbappe both refuse to renew are coming up for some tough decisions and no one at club that can even come close to replacing them at a decent level.

Di Maria been good but he is on borrowed time before legs give up.

Maybe they decide to see it out and let both rund down but giving up a lot of money on table to do that.

 

[Slevinn]

Cavani has already been replaced by Icardi.

Kurzawa us not better than his back up since he is the back up player.

Meunier ws a good offensive minded fullback when he first arrived but shit defensively. Now he is shit at both ends of the field. Won't be missed.

Only Thiago Silva will leave a big hole in the team. The other defenders at the club pale in comparison.

PSG is often quoted as a club in deep negociation for Telles on the left (Kurzawa replacement) and Marusic/Traor? on the right wing (they are both shit sadly).



Why should PSG accept unwanted bench players or unfit to play players in exchange to their best player and superstar (important for their commercial income)?

No one has money during the COVID crisis ? Then come back when you have money.

Cavani still played alot this year.
Kurzawa could be the back up but Bernat is the same level als him.
That Dagba dude is alot worse than Meunier.
Silva will indeed be misses but his best days were over.

I just think selling a star player (doesn?t need to be Neymar) and reinforce the entire team would be better for psg.

 

[Newcomer]

1)Cavani still played alot this year.
2)Kurzawa could be the back up but Bernat is the same level als him.
3)That Dagba dude is alot worse than Meunier.
4)Silva will indeed be misses but his best days were over.

5)I just think selling a star player (doesn?t need to be Neymar) and reinforce the entire team would be better for psg.

1)Icardi was specifically brought with Cavani departure in mind. Also the League Cup will disappear next season, less game to be played.

2)Bernat is a bit better than Kurzawa. Doesn't really matter anyway because both should be back up in a club serious about winning CL. PSG is linked with player like Telles and Tagliafico. Not the best or the youngest out there, but improvement from what we have and not too expensive (20-30 M? range).

3)Dagba should not even be considered. He is always injured and not good enough. Kehrer is actually the one playing there. Not good offensively but he gets the job done defensively in our hugely unbalanced team (Mbapp?/Di Maria don't defend in that wing). Now, the names being announced in the newspapaers are all garbage anyway. Meunier won't be missed anyway. Not only his level decreased offensively but he was always playing the smartass in the media and is persona non grata from the fans perspective. An huge c**t.

4)Yup, Thiago Silva is getting old but i'm really scared with the players we have at CB. All are HUGE liabilities.

5)Tuchel gameplan is "pass the ball to Neymar". We revolve around Mbapp? and Neymar individual brillance. We can't sell and fix all the issues + replace them accordingly. The only solution is getting good players but not too overpriced while keeping our magicians in front. Navas made a wold of difference from Areola/Trapp era.
I'm ok with the names for LB, there are some good names for midfield too. Midfield is top priority. RB is dire. And CB, i hope we invest. Just sell one of those bums we have (Kimpembe, Diallo) and buy someone better. Marquinhos won't be sold since he is supposed to become next captain and has renewed recently. Too bad he is overrated too.

To make it shhort, i would rather sell our useless players like Draxler, Herrera, Gueye, Paredes, Diallo, Kimpembe and co. rather than sell the ones who are actually working to finance our new signings. Those guys were bought for more than 150 M and are useless (40 M average since Herrera was on a free and Kimpembe is academy player).

Also our FFP specialists in PSG fanbase are saying that the impact of players like Cavani or Silva leaving will be huge because of their astronomical salaries. Icardi for once will receive a notably lower salary which opens funds for some recruits (the difference between Cavani and Icardi could allow us to pay a 30 M€ transfer over 5 years which is the price of the quoted LB).

 

[fergus90]

The only way I see Neymar leaving PSG is next summer if he doesn't sign an extension,so they avoid losing him for free the summer after and the transfer market has got back to some form of normality.

The previous rumours about 4+ players involved in swaps is just pure fantasy. It's delusional to think Barca could offer a small handful of fringe/past their prime players for their best player and they'd accept it.

 

[Andresito]

I'm ok with the names for LB, there are some good names for midfield too. Midfield is top priority. RB is dire. And CB, i hope we invest. Just sell one of those bums we have (Kimpembe, Diallo) and buy someone better. Marquinhos won't be sold since he is supposed to become next captain and has renewed recently. Too bad he is overrated too.

Where do you see Marquinhos playing in the future? CB or in midfield?

 

[clemente]

We barely have revenue now and we will be paying Coutinho 300k week again soon, in what world can we afford 150m purchase when all our players are taking wage cuts?

 

[Messigician]

We barely have revenue now and we will be paying Coutinho 300k week again soon, in what world can we afford 150m purchase when all our players are taking wage cuts?

By selling players lol

 

[clemente]

By selling players lol

lol just sell Rakitic for 40m, Semedo for 40m, Coutinho for 70m and just buy Neymar, just did it on Fifa it works.

 

[JamDav1982]

1)

Also our FFP specialists in PSG fanbase are saying that the impact of players like Cavani or Silva leaving will be huge because of their astronomical salaries. Icardi for once will receive a notably lower salary which opens funds for some recruits (the difference between Cavani and Icardi could allow us to pay a 30 M€ transfer over 5 years which is the price of the quoted LB).

Struggle to see how the PSG thinks Cavani for Icardi frees up money.

On the Fees alone Cavani will be a saving of around 4m on FFP no longer being paid but Icardi is going to cost 12.5m a season over four years and maybe more depending on clauses.

Doubt the differences in wages comes anywhere close to bridging that and they will have less to spend by directly swapping them unless take into account the cost of Icardi last season.

 

[Newcomer]

Struggle to see how the PSG thinks Cavani for Icardi frees up money.

On the Fees alone Cavani will be a saving of around 4m on FFP no longer being paid but Icardi is going to cost 12.5m a season over four years and maybe more depending on clauses.

Doubt the differences in wages comes anywhere close to bridging that and they will have less to spend by directly swapping them unless take into account the cost of Icardi last season.

It is considered a 5 year transfer with the last year included. Like Mbapp?.
Cavani had the third highest salary with 18,4 M.

Icardi was supposed to get 10 M but Wanda managed to negociate a raise at 12 M.

Since we were already paying Icardi wages last year, we are paying an excess of 2 M (bonus salary) + 10 M (amortized transfer) this year. A lot less than Cavani salary. Keep in mind that soon Cavani would have lost his special tax status like Thiago Silva this year and we would have to pay almost twice for him to keep his salary.

With the 6,4 millions you saved you can almost get a Telles (25 M fee) and 1,2 M wage per year according to rumours if he were to sign (he has 650 k now).

 

[Newcomer]

Where do you see Marquinhos playing in the future? CB or in midfield?

Thiago Silva is leaving and Marquinhos, vice captain, will be groomed as its successor as the captain and CB.

He is too soft imo to be a top CB.

 

[JamDav1982]

It is considered a 5 year transfer with the last year included. Like Mbapp?.
Cavani had the third highest salary with 18,4 M.

Icardi was supposed to get 10 M but Wanda managed to negociate a raise at 12 M.

Since we were already paying Icardi wages last year, we are paying an excess of 2 M (bonus salary) + 10 M (amortized transfer) this year. A lot less than Cavani salary. Keep in mind that soon Cavani would have lost his special tax status like Thiago Silva this year and we would have to pay almost twice for him to keep his salary.

With the 6,4 millions you saved you can almost get a Telles (25 M fee) and 1,2 M wage per year according to rumours if he were to sign (he has 650 k now).

Has Icardi not signed for 50m and bonuses on a four year contract?

That would be amortized down at 12.5m a season before the bonuses and before his salary. Why would it be counted as five years? What did PSG pay to to Inter to take him on loan?

Cavani would have had around 4m amortized value no longer having to be taken into account.

Think I get it now.... Icardi directly will cost more in terms of FFP than Cavani did but PSG more or less save on not having another striker on loan but not sure it is 6m saved.

 

[Jadentheman]

We barely have revenue now and we will be paying Coutinho 300k week again soon, in what world can we afford 150m purchase when all our players are taking wage cuts?

The club will take a loss most likely. Which will affect how things will be run in the next 5 years or more