Neymar Jr.

[Newcomer]

Has Icardi not signed for 50m and bonuses on a four year contract?

That would be amortized down at 12.5m a season before the bonuses and before his salary. Why would it be counted as five years? What did PSG pay to to Inter to take him on loan?

Cavani would have had around 4m amortized value no longer having to be taken into account.

Think I get it now.... Icardi directly will cost more in terms of FFP than Cavani did but PSG more or less save on not having another striker on loan but not sure it is 6m saved.

Icardi is the same case as Mbapp? : first year of contract is a loan with 4 more years after the option is to buy is exercised by PSG. Effectively, it is a 5 year contract for FFP. Note that Icardi contract situation has been sorted before the next financial year.

FP takes into account the amortized fee but also the wages. Cavani and Thiago Silva leaving are 36,4 M less, in wage alone, as charges annually for FFP. The same cost as a player with 130 M (26 M/year) transfer fee and 10 M salary.

 

[JamDav1982]

Icardi is the same case as Mbapp? : first year of contract is a loan with 4 more years after the option is to buy is exercised by PSG. Effectively, it is a 5 year contract for FFP. Note that Icardi contract situation has been sorted before the next financial year.

FP takes into account the amortized fee but also the wages. Cavani and Thiago Silva leaving are 36,4 M less, in wage alone, as charges annually for FFP. The same cost as a player with 130 M (26 M/year) transfer fee and 10 M salary.

Icardi loan fee 5m so they are amortising down 11m a season for 5 season on his fee?

What is his salary supposed to be now?

I find it hard to believe that PSG have payed down 10m wages, 2m bonus, 5m loan fee and 10m amortisation against 2019/20 accounts. That would be around 50m in terms FFP for Cavani and Icardi that would still have to be accounted for in next couple of seasons.

PSG past couple of seasons have had to sell to meet FFP so if anything these sales will not just free up funds that can be spent on other players.

 

[Newcomer]

Icardi loan fee 5m so they are amortising down 11m a season for 5 season on his fee?

What is his salary supposed to be now?

I find it hard to believe that PSG have payed down 10m wages, 2m bonus, 5m loan fee and 10m amortisation against 2019/20 accounts. That would be around 50m in terms FFP for Cavani and Icardi that would still have to be accounted for in next couple of seasons.

PSG past couple of seasons have had to sell to meet FFP so if anything these sales will not just free up funds that can be spent on other players.

The terms of the loan are blurry. When it was done in the previous summer, it was said PSG would pay 5M for the loan but when they activated the option to buy Icardi, it was not reported at all. Only the 50 + bonus as the total cost.

Don't forget that this year is the first year with Nike (80 from 25) and ALL (60/70 from 25 of Emirates) as main sponsors. It largely offsets the loss of QTA which was at 58 M? in our FFP accounts although it was at 145 M in our DNCG budget.

https://www.transfermarkt.fr/fc-paris-saint-germain/transfers/verein/583

PSG balance is perfect this year. And most of those young players are sold with a sell on clause. Which is why Betis fucked us by loaning Lo Celso for an high fee and selling him for another average fee on which we will get some millions after he joined Tottenham.

You don't have to believe that PSG has Icardi on his 2019/2020 accounts, the exact same thing happened with Mbapp? : loan of 1 year + 4 year contract with UEFA confirming he was in their FFP account from his loan year (people were saying PSG was circumventing the rule).

 

[JamDav1982]

The terms of the loan are blurry. When it was done in the previous summer, it was said PSG would pay 5M for the loan but when they activated the option to buy Icardi, it was not reported at all. Only the 50 + bonus as the total cost.

Don't forget that this year is the first year with Nike (80 from 25) and ALL (60/70 from 25 of Emirates) as main sponsors. It largely offsets the loss of QTA which was at 58 M? in our FFP accounts although it was at 145 M in our DNCG budget.

https://www.transfermarkt.fr/fc-paris-saint-germain/transfers/verein/583

PSG balance is perfect this year. And most of those young players are sold with a sell on clause. Which is why Betis fucked us by loaning Lo Celso for an high fee and selling him for another average fee on which we will get some millions after he joined Tottenham.

You don't have to believe that PSG has Icardi on his 2019/2020 accounts, the exact same thing happened with Mbapp? : loan of 1 year + 4 year contract with UEFA confirming he was in their FFP account from his loan year (people were saying PSG was circumventing the rule).

The 5m for the loan was reported last season so will have been paid last season or possibly included to cost of the 50m so 55m.

The 2m bonus is likely amortized down also rather than covered wholly in this seasons accounts.

Mbappe would signing was not counted until the following season so it gave them a bit of breathing for that first year when signed Neymar.

We will see but I doubt PSG are in a position to spend much this summer and will sign a full back under next seasons account and try to cover it by next June.

 

[Newcomer]

The 5m for the loan was reported last season so will have been paid last season or possibly included to cost of the 50m so 55m.

The 2m bonus is likely amortized down also rather than covered wholly in this seasons accounts.

Mbappe would signing was not counted until the following season so it gave them a bit of breathing for that first year when signed Neymar.

We will see but I doubt PSG are in a position to spend much this summer and will sign a full back under next seasons account and try to cover it by next June.

https://www.archyde.com/transfer-of-kylian-mbappe-psg-still-owes-35-million-euros-to-monaco/

The first season, in 2017-2018, within the framework of a loan with compulsory option, the PSG had paid nothing to Monaco, even if it always specified that the transaction was accounted for within the framework of financial fair play . It is also necessary to distinguish this aspect from that of the installment of payments, which is a matter of cash but has no impact on the amortization of the accounts, smoothed over the duration of the contract.

As i said, Mbapp? was always in our FFP account from 2017-2018 like Neymar. He is being amortized over 5 years from his loan spell year. The same will happen with Icardi.

Also note that in transfermarkt, there is no fee on Icardi loan while you can see the 2 M? of Areola and Jese loans. Imo, it was announced the loan would be paid 5 M? but with the way it is worded after the whole transfer has happened, it seems very less clear it was a paying loan at all.

PSG is letting his old big earners go especially to open space to renew its players and be able to invest a little bit. TS is still better than the other CB, he is let go only for financial reasons.

I doubt PSG is able to spend much either but they will definitely sign several full backs. Kurzawa and Meunier are out of contract. PSG will definitely invest in those positions.

 

[JamDav1982]

https://www.archyde.com/transfer-of-kylian-mbappe-psg-still-owes-35-million-euros-to-monaco/

The first season, in 2017-2018, within the framework of a loan with compulsory option, the PSG had paid nothing to Monaco, even if it always specified that the transaction was accounted for within the framework of financial fair play . It is also necessary to distinguish this aspect from that of the installment of payments, which is a matter of cash but has no impact on the amortization of the accounts, smoothed over the duration of the contract.

As i said, Mbapp? was always in our FFP account from 2017-2018 like Neymar. He is being amortized over 5 years from his loan spell year. The same will happen with Icardi.

Also note that in transfermarkt, there is no fee on Icardi loan while you can see the 2 M? of Areola and Jese loans. Imo, it was announced the loan would be paid 5 M? but with the way it is worded after the whole transfer has happened, it seems very less clear it was a paying loan at all.

PSG is letting his old big earners go especially to open space to renew its players and be able to invest a little bit. TS is still better than the other CB, he is let go only for financial reasons.

I doubt PSG is able to spend much either but they will definitely sign several full backs. Kurzawa and Meunier are out of contract. PSG will definitely invest in those positions.

Why would PSG use as loan if not to push back on FFP? and it was always paid within framework of FFP there is no debate there.

Of course they paid for the loan. They were not getting Icardi for free and there is no reason to further mention it as part of the fee.

 

[Newcomer]

Why would PSG use as loan if not to push back on FFP? and it was always paid within framework of FFP there is no debate there.

Of course they paid for the loan. They were not getting Icardi for free and there is no reason to further mention it as part of the fee.

I can't tell you why PSG used a loan. Only PSG and Monaco know why. We can maybe suggest that PSG had already paid cash for Neymar and the club and its owner didn't want to pay for Mbapp? in 2017 aswell.

However, it has always been stated that he was in PSG account from 2017 FFP wise.

 

[Newcomer]

Why would PSG use as loan if not to push back on FFP? and it was always paid within framework of FFP there is no debate there.

Of course they paid for the loan. They were not getting Icardi for free and there is no reason to further mention it as part of the fee.

As i guessed from the language after his purchase, Leonardo confirms the loan was indeed not a paying loan.

https://twitter.com/jetlu_2002/status/1271967931329646594/photo/1

Other than that, he said that Neymar was happy this year and they want to keep and renew Neymar and Mbapp?. Nothing new. The players are still not keen on renewing so far.

https://twitter.com/jetlu_2002/status/1271962552709324800/photo/2

 

[Jadentheman]

Not keen because both are weighing their options. Their original contracts still will expire and coronavirus allows other clubs to patiently wait now.

 

[Messigician]

Official: Social Court 15 has fully dismissed Neymar's claim for payment of 43.6 million euros, and has accepted a large part of the defence presented by FC Barcelona, as a result of which the player must return 6.7 million euros to the club. [fcb]

I am a Neymar fan but I'm glad justice prevailed. No player is bigger than the club. If it is his fate to retire at PSG then so be it. It's a sad cautionary tale that the grass is not always greener on the other side.

 

[Vilarrubi]

Neymars case against the club has been fully dismissed. Instead of the 43.6m euros he was suing the club for he has to pay back 6.7m to Barca.

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club...ampaign=70b69560-c3f7-4011-aa12-32d14b55fcff#

Fuck man, Barto out here with mobster legal team.

 

[aragorn]

 

[Vilarrubi]

 

[draconifire]

Probably the best news out in a while. Hate this cnut.

 

[Xaviniesta]

one of the replies on twitter: