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They wouldnt let him leave for free most likely and while not needing the cash they will want the sales towards FFP and allow them more freedom.

Worst case scenario for PSG is both Neymar and Mbappe leave around the same time or a year apart for little money.

Maybe they gamble on going all in on CL and accept the FFP hit but cant see it.

It would be totally ridiculous and irresponsible from PSG ot to recoup some money invested to buy Neymar and Mbapp?. However, even if they let them leave for free, they have no problem with FFP. Them leaving means we don't have to pay their big salaries and the remaining part of their transfer fees. Neymar cost PSG 80 M a year without his primes. Enough to invest and not be in trouble with FFP.

Selling means we will have even more room, not selling means we got no cash but usually it is not a problem with Qatar.
 

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It would be totally ridiculous and irresponsible from PSG ot to recoup some money invested to buy Neymar and Mbapp?. However, even if they let them leave for free, they have no problem with FFP. Them leaving means we don't have to pay their big salaries and the remaining part of their transfer fees. Neymar cost PSG 80 M a year without his primes. Enough to invest and not be in trouble with FFP.

Selling means we will have even more room, not selling means we got no cash but usually it is not a problem with Qatar.

Who has said they would be in toruble with FFP?

The only issue with FFP is that it restricts the spending and if choose to let them both leave for free PSG could potentially leave 300m on the table.

Maybe they will and accept wont get players like those two again and max it out for chance to win CL but that comes at a cost.
 

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France Football would definitely reverse their decision not to award the Ballon d'or if PSG ends up winning the CL.

If PSG had ended up winning the CL, FF would have given it to Mbapp?. They have Mbapp? higher rated than Neymar in their eleven of the season in L1 when Neymar is obviously the much better player.
 

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Who has said they would be in toruble with FFP?

The only issue with FFP is that it restricts the spending and if choose to let them both leave for free PSG could potentially leave 300m on the table.

Maybe they will and accept wont get players like those two again and max it out for chance to win CL but that comes at a cost.

Maybe they gamble on going all in on CL and accept the FFP hit but cant see it.

You ask who has said they would be in trouble in FFP when before you talk about accepting the FFP hit. If you are not in trouble with FFP, how can you accept a FFP hit ?
 

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If PSG had ended up winning the CL, FF would have given it to Mbapp?. They have Mbapp? higher rated than Neymar in their eleven of the season in L1 when Neymar is obviously the much better player.

Journalists from around the world vote on the balondor winner.

French Football dont decide the winner.
 

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You ask who has said they would be in trouble in FFP when before you talk about accepting the FFP hit. If you are not in trouble in FFP, how can you accept a FFP hit ?

Accepting the FFP hit as in not taking the fees for the players and having less freedom within it after they leave.

Not in failing FFP.
 

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Journalists from around the world vote on the balondor winner.

French Football dont decide the winner.

And journalists from around the wolrd would vote for Mbapp?. Dunno why but he has more hype than Neymar when the latter is the better player. Neymar has missed too many games due to his suspension in first three games of group.
 

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And journalists from around the wolrd would vote for Mbapp?. Dunno why but he has more hype than Neymar when the latter is the better player. Neymar has missed too many games due to his suspension in first three games of group.

You tried to link it to FF putting Mbappe in team of year when that has no relevance.

If Neymar was better in CL win he would get more votes. It doesnt matter who FF voted in team of year.

First three games of group were last year anyway.
 

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Accepting the FFP hit as in not taking the fees for the players and having less freedom within it after they leave.

Not in failing FFP.

Ok, i didn't understand hit that way.

If they keep the same level of sponsoring after they leave (it is not guaranteed), they could theorically pay another player the same salaray as Neymar with a 222 M transfer fee.
year of conbtract.
Nevertheless, i agree with you. PSG needs to learn how to sell when it is needed. Kinda like Chelsea did with Hazard. Get that 100 M for 1 year of contract.
 

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You tried to link it to FF putting Mbappe in team of year when that has no relevance.

If Neymar was better in CL win he would get more votes. It doesnt matter who FF voted in team of year.

First three games of group were last year anyway.

I equate that because the post i'm replying to is joking with that concept: FF would award Ballon d'Or to Neymar if PSG win CL. If it was in FF power to do that, they would chose Mbapp". It is a simple concept to understand.
 

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Ok, i didn't understand hit that way.

If they keep the same level of sponsoring after they leave (it is not guaranteed), they could theorically pay another player the same salaray as Neymar with a 222 M transfer fee.
year of conbtract.
Nevertheless, i agree with you. PSG needs to learn how to sell when it is needed. Kinda like Chelsea did with Hazard. Get that 100 M for 1 year of contract.


PSG isnt going to do that, because at the end of the day, money is worthless to them.
They will continue to run down contracts of unhappy players out of sheer spite.
 

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PSG isnt going to do that, because at the end of the day, money is worthless to them.
They will continue to run down contracts of unhappy players out of sheer spite.

No it is not worthless to them as already said they are within FFP which restricts them and maximising when to sell is as important to them as any other club.

The only reason they keep both on is if weigh it up and accept that for FFP cost they will try for another couple seasons with Neymar/Mbappe.
 

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PSG isnt going to do that, because at the end of the day, money is worthless to them.
They will continue to run down contracts of unhappy players out of sheer spite.

You are wrong. PSG doesnt keep players out of spite. They keep players they think/know they cannot upgrade realistically in the market.

Last winter, Atletico president said Cavani transfer fell through because Cavani asked too much money, not because PSG vetoed the sale.

Last summer window, PSG received Bar?a delegation to talk about Neymar transfer. When PSG doesn't want to sell, you have Bartomeu saying they want Verratti but PSG doesn't even answer the phone.

Now, you sell Neymar and Mbapp? this summer. Who are you getting without getting fleeced (Coutinho/Demb?l?) and not losing too much on the pitch ? I don't know, they are both generational players in their own ways.
 

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The former Barca and PSG right-back told Radio Catalunya: "The only one I've tried to convince is Neymar to go to Barcelona.

"He had a very big offer from Real Madrid, and I told him that if he wanted to be happy he should come to Barcelona. It's the only time I've ever convinced anyone of anything.

"If I were him, I would come back without thinking about it.

"I never think that people make mistakes when they make a decision.

"Everyone knows that Ney can help Barcelona, Messi and the club to become a giant again in La Liga, in Europe. Football is becoming more and more balanced. The team has 11 and with Messi you have 13. The team has 11 and with Neymar you have 13."
 

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No it is not worthless to them as already said they are within FFP which restricts them and maximising when to sell is as important to them as any other club.

The only reason they keep both on is if weigh it up and accept that for FFP cost they will try for another couple seasons with Neymar/Mbappe.

City avoided any significant punishment regarding FFP, what makes you think PSG couldnt do the same?
 
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