Ousmane Dembélé
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Birdy
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What are the conditionals?
Joan drew an analogy.
I am saying for the analogy to be valid, one should compare Araujo's first 2 season in 1st team dynamics (19-21) with Dembele's first two seasons in 1st team dynamics (15-17)
It's the other way around.
People see something (Dembele getting muschle injuries all the time between 17 and 20) and blame him for that, without digging any deeper:
Did he have those before? NO
Does he have those after Valverde? No
Dembele is the easy scapegoat here.
And actually Iniesta is a good counter-example that Vegitot failed to use against me:
It actually works wonders for my argument.
Iniesta's muscular system was/is as fringe (or comparable to) as Dembele's, but no one here would rush to accuse the player himself for his muscle injuries.
But you do it with Dembele without even looking at the evidence from his past.
Because you are BIASED (against Dembele, but in favor of Iniesta for instance)
Joan
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You're cherry-picking to dismiss an analogy, which doesn't need to mirror the situation exactly. Simply too many things to consider. For starters, that we don't know what caused his injuries.
Yet you keep ignoring Dembele joined Barca with no preseason and being left out of training at his former club due to boycott, he most likely didn't live a professional life, ignored his obligations, and hid discomfort. See he had same discomfort under Koeman but warned the stuff and they acted accordingly and prevented a long term injury. On top of that, it's one player who suffered injuries under Valverde and yet you claim it's the system. And there's a difference between claiming Valverde's system might've had a role in it and arguing that the club sues the man.
And yet, you close your eyes at all this while claiming others are biased and you're not
P.S. I never said it's all Dembele's fault. Nor I think so.
Leaving it at that.
Richard.H
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Your primary conditional is blaming Valverde for Dembele's injuries. By that logic we can extend it to other cases, like vegitot mentioned. Also how are you so sure its Valverde not being aware of Dembeles fragile muscular system (lol) and blaming it on him? It's so far off it's almost insane.
What if I start arguing that the air Dembele breathes in Spain was different than Germany and hence that's why he got injured?
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
FIFA does for World Cups so I assume UEFA do too.
I don't think it's much though. A couple of millions perhaps or maybe they cover the player's salary until he's back again.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Exaclty, its time to move
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Messi983
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Then he should be out until next season and then leave for free, lol.
JohnN
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He has had 11 injuries since he joined us. I don't really care if it's his fault or not. I, for example, am short. it's no my fault, but I wasn't ever gonna be a basketball player.
Dembmele is made of glass and barely smart enough to not fall down while running. It's no his fault, but he should have never played for Barcelona.
I hope someone signs him this summer so I don't have to watch his clumsy dribbling ever again.
Dembmele is made of glass and barely smart enough to not fall down while running. It's no his fault, but he should have never played for Barcelona.
I hope someone signs him this summer so I don't have to watch his clumsy dribbling ever again.
Messigician
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This is big
Bar?a could claim up to 7.5M directly from FIFA because of Ousmane Demb?l?'s long term injury.
? @RamonFuentes74
Bar?a could claim up to 7.5M directly from FIFA because of Ousmane Demb?l?'s long term injury.
? @RamonFuentes74
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