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Ousmane Dembélé
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Birdy
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That's not a conditional.
It's the most likely possibility given the evidence.
Just to remind you the evidence:
1) Dembele had 0 muscular injuries at Rennes and Dortmund, as well as 20/21 under Koeman.
2) Dembele was muscularly injured more than not during 3 seasons under Valverde.
There is other stuff as well that is thrown as evidence, which is basically just rumors
(like that Dembele was playing video games until late in the morning, or is not eating well)
But even if these rumours are true, does not change the hard facts above.
And the hard facts leads us to some unpleasant conclusions:
That something was happening during the Valverde days that made the player getting injured all the time.
What can that be?
Can that be that Dembele was playing video games until late (if true)? Probably not, because I have no reason to assume he didn't do that at Rennes and Dortmund
Can that be that Dembele was not eating well? Probably not again, for the same reason
Can it be that the team under Valverde (as it is 100% certified by multiple reports and players themselves) was training only 20-30 min without physical preparation and Valverde himself dismissing the importance of it???
You're cherry-picking to dismiss an analogy, which doesn't need to mirror the situation exactly. Simply too many things to consider. For starters, that we don't know what caused his injuries.
Yet you keep ignoring Dembele joined Barca with no preseason and being left out of training at his former club due to boycott, he most likely didn't live a professional life, ignored his obligations, and hid discomfort. See he had same discomfort under Koeman but warned the stuff and they acted accordingly and prevented a long term injury. On top of that, it's one player who suffered injuries under Valverde and yet you claim it's the system. And there's a difference between claiming Valverde's system might've had a role in it and arguing that the club sues the man.
And yet, you close your eyes at all this while claiming others are biased and you're not
P.S. I never said it's all Dembele's fault. Nor I think so.
Leaving it at that.
1) Pre-season factor:
That's true it can hamper some players when they have no pre-season.
But he had a pre-season in summer 18, and in summer 19. Nevertheless he started getting injured again soon after the season began.
2) His professionalism:
I haven't dismissed the possibility that the rumours around his life are true.
Still, that does not match up well with the facts to provide the necessary causal evidence(see the answer to Richard above)
3) Only player suffered:
It might be true that only some, and not all, players suffer from that training regime.
Basically players that might have a certain fringe muscular background, which means that they have to take much better care of their muscles compared to others in order not to break them.
I said Dembele should sue Valverde in an exaggeration to show how much of a role his (non) training played in Dembele's case.
I think it was obvious I didn't mean it seriously, as there can be no legal grounding for it.
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Every day a month gets added.
https://twitter.com/QueThiJugues/status/1407702507414077450
Could be out for the rest of 2021 after his surgery according to one of the doctors who's been a part of his surgeon's team.
https://twitter.com/QueThiJugues/status/1407702507414077450
Could be out for the rest of 2021 after his surgery according to one of the doctors who's been a part of his surgeon's team.
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Just release him on a free in 2022. No point in having him here on his wages
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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It makes me sad seeing how dembele has developed. I never expected from him to replace Neymar but i thought he will become a legend here and is able to lead barca after Messi has retired one day.
You do realise that if Barca release him they have to pay the rest of his contract. This clown will sit and take the cash for the whole term of his contract , another terrible piece of business by the club.
soul24rage
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You do realize that his contract ends on 2022 right?
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
His contract is expiring in 2022. I meant that we should not renew him
FinBarcelonafan
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Now we can collect the insurance money at least. No point buying him out.
Messigician
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Barcelona_Boy
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I didn't like him at BVB, and more less after that situation and transfer to Barca. Then, he came to Barca and did more things and because of that I eaven disliked him more (if thats eaven posible). He played like shit, was more injured than any player in last 20 years and now he's doing just the same thing that he's done with BVB. Fuck him, sell or let him play for Barca B till the end. I can't beleave that he's still here!!!!
Messigician
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I didnt like either at first but once I adjusted my expectations of him (and saw him as a random sub card to use only when you failed to find a solution against your opponent) I started to see the value he potentially can bring to barca. Now I am indifferent about him
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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I liked him at dortmund, he was good in dribbling and was able to play well against teams like bayern or leverkusen. The problem is that he didnt develop since he came here or he already reached his full potential which is not enough for a club like barca. Sell.
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