Ousmane Dembélé

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Porque

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Dembele - Age 18

Current Ability
123

Potential Ability
128

We all got fooled by those signings back in the day.

Modern day To Madeira.
 
FinBarcelonafan

FinBarcelonafan

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Fati_Future_BallonDor said:
I liked him at dortmund, he was good in dribbling and was able to play well against teams like bayern or leverkusen. The problem is that he didnt develop since he came here or he already reached his full potential which is not enough for a club like barca. Sell.
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True. That's good point. He had insane hype because people thought he would keep developing but he didn't.

If he reached his potential he would be comparable to Mbappe.(more assists, less goals)
 
behindbrowneyes

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The question is why he didn't develop well. Having many injuries during crucial years of development is the obvious reason. Having the wrong coach and a bad mentality play a part too. Tuchel seems to be an elite coach and he really flourished under his guidance, whereas Valverde's coaching staff failed to keep him fit. Something Koeman's staff managed apart from that minor problem where he missed 5 games, just for him to get seriously injured with the national team. :rolleyes::lol:
 
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behindbrowneyes said:
The question is why he didn't develop well. Having many injuries during crucial years of development is the obvious reason. Having the wrong coach and a bad mentality play a part too. Tuchel seems to be an elite coach and he really flourished under his guidance, whereas Valverde's coaching staff failed to keep him fit. Something Koeman's staff managed apart from that minor problem where he missed 5 games, just for him to get seriously injured with the national team. :rolleyes::lol:
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It's everyone's fault but Dembeles. We need a elite coaches, the best in the world to teach Dembele how to complete short passes and trap the ball under his feet.

Plenty of successful players were injury ridden during the early stages of their career, injuries didn't suddenly cause them to forget how to pass and control a ball. They still possessed their technique and passing ability (Robben for example).

Dembele never had the ability to go elite. Once again, there were plenty of people here being skeptical of his technique before we signed him. Cal back to all the "he looks raw, ball looks loose with him" comments before we signed him.

If we had pep instead of valverde, Pep would have signed him off to some other team after a single season in Barcelona.

You're not supposed to learn the basics of football at the age of fucking 20 at Barcelona.

He worked in Dortmund for Tuchel because the Bundesliga is a league with shit loads of open space benefiting speed merchants with poor technical ability like Dembele and Werner.
 
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DonAK

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Word.

We basically paid 140m for Adama Traore with better end product and creativity, but worse close control and dribbling.
 
Fati_Future_BallonDor

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Laplacian said:
It's everyone's fault but Dembeles. We need a elite coaches, the best in the world to teach Dembele how to complete short passes and trap the ball under his feet.

Plenty of successful players were injury ridden during the early stages of their career, injuries didn't suddenly cause them to forget how to pass and control a ball. They still possessed their technique and passing ability (Robben for example).

Dembele never had the ability to go elite. Once again, there were plenty of people here being skeptical of his technique before we signed him. Cal back to all the "he looks raw, ball looks loose with him" comments before we signed him.

If we had pep instead of valverde, Pep would have signed him off to some other team after a single season in Barcelona.

You're not supposed to learn the basics of football at the age of fucking 20 at Barcelona.

He worked in Dortmund for Tuchel because the Bundesliga is a league with shit loads of open space benefiting speed merchants with poor technical ability like Dembele and Werner.
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Full right.
 
Givenchy

Givenchy

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Laplacian said:
It's everyone's fault but Dembeles. We need a elite coaches, the best in the world to teach Dembele how to complete short passes and trap the ball under his feet.

Plenty of successful players were injury ridden during the early stages of their career, injuries didn't suddenly cause them to forget how to pass and control a ball. They still possessed their technique and passing ability (Robben for example).

Dembele never had the ability to go elite. Once again, there were plenty of people here being skeptical of his technique before we signed him. Cal back to all the "he looks raw, ball looks loose with him" comments before we signed him.

If we had pep instead of valverde, Pep would have signed him off to some other team after a single season in Barcelona.

You're not supposed to learn the basics of football at the age of fucking 20 at Barcelona.

He worked in Dortmund for Tuchel because the Bundesliga is a league with shit loads of open space benefiting speed merchants with poor technical ability like Dembele and Werner.
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This was his biggest problem. We lost Neymar and replaced him with a raw, inconsistent player with maturity issues + his massive fee. Going from MSN to MSD you could see Suarez and Messi's frustration in Dembele
 
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kattanib

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weloveyuner said:
It's not our fault Dembele kept getting injured. No one else has had the streak of injuries he's had.
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His problem is in his IQ and the lack of sync between his body and brain. No lack of injury can solve that. I was one of those with the unpopular opinion (as is usually the case) and called him for it when everyone kept on saying he did not even play enough because of injuries wait for him
 
Bobo32

Bobo32

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Porque said:
Football manager
Dembele - Age 18

Current Ability
123

Potential Ability
128

We all got fooled by those signings back in the day.

Modern day To Madeira.
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There should be somewhere where we could check these values for earlier databases easily? Would be fun to see the evolution of players PA and CA.

If anyone have FM08 and its editor installed, please check Pedro and Busquets. I did a couple of years ago, and they were literally the two players with lowest PA owned by Barcelona (they were obviously in Barcelona B back then), IIRC somewhere around 90... I can't get my old iso file to mount now for some reason, or I'd check again myself...

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And I can't keep myself from "bragging" about having a higher PA myself than Dembele at 18 then, I ended up less succesful than To Madeira though :)
 
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