Ousmane Dembélé

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Laplacian

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What I think matters, to me and that's it, I am not trying to preach here. I am not from the US and not every conversation has to be framed within a particular framework or setting in order to go on. I was simply stating what I think and that's it. I don't have to frame that in the context of the US or whatever.

I swear, people just love to argue for the sake of arguing.
You're quite literally talking about an American talking point, that exists in the framework of American political and societal issues. I'm not saying your thoughts don't matter to you, I'm saying your thoughts are irrelevant to the substance of the argument(s) that already exist and are substantiated by evidence; independently of whatever your thoughts are.

You can't simply choose to unwittingly partake in the discussions of topics with certain histories and contexts, only to use "I think, I'm not American" as some sort of deniability that somehow gives credence to your arguments. You can't just deny and forsake the history of a topic, because you were ignorant of the circumstances and because you're not American. lol

Just say "oh thanks bro, I didn't know that. Good to know!" and move on. Don't fucking double down like the forum's idiots. You're better than that, bro.
 
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Gnidrologist

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"Systemic racism", another buzzword internalized by bugmen cultists to rationalize their kneeling olympics and scream at people, who refuse kneeling, but hit back instead. It's basically equivalent of "original sin" for culturbolshevik religion, because CRT does not allow even notion that a white person could not be racist and could be alleviated from forever feeling guilt and being forced to apologize. Everyone is guilty forever and should become self shaming eunuchs or else be punished by social credit system. It also implies collective guilt. Giving poison like that freedom to spread n your nation is sure way to chinese style cultural revolution and enslavement of people, which seems only organic, given that these ideologies are entirely financed by the same class of people that have been concentrating the wealth of the whole world among their 1% (probably even less) self and forcing their puppet politicians to enforce one totalitarian measure after another. Bugmen will be happy kneeling and barking at dissenters, while being dragged by the leash though.
 
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Luftstalag14

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I swear, people just love to argue for the sake of arguing.
You're quite literally talking about an American talking point, that exists in the framework of American political and societal issues. I'm not saying your thoughts don't matter to you, I'm saying your thoughts are irrelevant to the substance of the argument(s) that already exist and are substantiated by evidence; independently of whatever your thoughts are.

You can't simply choose to unwittingly partake in the discussions of topics with certain histories and contexts, only to use "I think, I'm not American" as some sort of deniability that somehow gives credence to your arguments. You can't just deny and forsake the history of a topic, because you were ignorant of the circumstances and because you're not American. lol

Just say "oh thanks bro, I didn't know that. Good to know!" and move on. Don't fucking double down like the forum's idiots. You're better than that, bro.

No, why do I have to apologize for not carrying on the conversation or framing it in the context that you wanted? It is a forum here and people are here to opine and I was simply stating what I think, without having to worry about anything else. On this particular subject I don?t pretend to know all the intricacies, what?s going on and what is being discussed on this subject in the US, not that I don?t care to know, it has no bearing on what I wanted to say on this subject when I wrote it.

Look, I don?t care if it is an American talking point or not, just because it is a so-called ?American talking point?, it doesn?t mean it has to be discussed exclusively with their perspectives in mind. People outside America, people who are not familiar with that American talking point can talk about it without making reference to the American talking point. To me it (?black people can?t be racist?) is a ludicrous claim that could have very racist undertone which I sought to condemn and repudiate. That?s it. Unless if you think without knowing and delving into the so-called ?American talking point?, I am not allow to speak about it.

The way I see it, nobody needs to have a badge of qualifications before speaking on any matter, you speak what?s in your mind. If you don?t like it, ignore it, you don?t have to lecture me. Look, I don?t even know why we are arguing about this in the first place, I don?t see any real disagreement between us on the merits. I am not the argumentative one here.
 

Porque

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Rakuten CEO Hiroshi Mikitani on twitter today.

“As a sponsor of the club and organiser of this tournament, I am really sorry that the Barcelona players made discriminatory remarks.

“Especially as Rakuten has approved of the Barcelona philosophy and is a sponsor of the club, these sorts of remarks are unacceptable in all circumstances and we will protest officially against the club, as we wait to hear their position on the matter.”
 

MTL_Barca

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So what exactly do they expect from Barca? It's not like we can simply fire them like a regular company would do.
 

olivis

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Rakuten CEO Hiroshi Mikitani on twitter today.

?As a sponsor of the club and organiser of this tournament, I am really sorry that the Barcelona players made discriminatory remarks.

?Especially as Rakuten has approved of the Barcelona philosophy and is a sponsor of the club, these sorts of remarks are unacceptable in all circumstances and we will protest officially against the club, as we wait to hear their position on the matter.?

I only now saw the video of what Dembele actually said

Terrible. Just fucking terrible and how fucking stupid can you be first of all to behave like that and secondly to upload it.

This guys must have an IQ of below 50.

And the remarks were not mild. I often believe we tend to overreact with regard to racism but this was pure racism. Disgusting.
 

behindbrowneyes

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Really stupid to record this shit and (probably) send it into an internal chat group. Sometimes friends turn into fiends and then shit like this gets mysteriously leaked some years later.

The France national team even argued on the pitch lol
 

Messi983

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Really stupid to record this shit and (probably) send it into an internal chat group. Sometimes friends turn into fiends and then shit like this gets mysteriously leaked some years later.

The France national team even argued on the pitch lol

Yeah, I wonder who leaked this.
 

bastardo

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All neymars off field antics pales in comparison to this kid and he does not even have 1/10th of neymars talent to justify us putting up with it.
 
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