Ousmane Dembélé

[wisconsincule]

I just watched his miss against Liverpool again. Fuck me all he had to do was take a touch.

Nightmare stuff.

Hopefully he can come back and stay healthy.

 

[mc_lovin]

really comparing stats of someone playing in freaking wolves with dembele in barca who had GOAT alongside him?

It usually doesn't work like that. I would even argue it's harder to get into scoring positions when playing with a GOAT.

 

[Messigician]

I just watched his miss against Liverpool again. Fuck me all he had to do was take a touch.

Nightmare stuff.

Hopefully he can come back and stay healthy.

dont remind me brother

 

[Bobo32]

It usually doesn't work like that. I would even argue it's harder to get into scoring positions when playing with a GOAT.

It's harder if you are very poor (like Dembele) but it's much easier if you are good and know where and how to move. (This is playing with THE goat, not "a" goat, Maradona f.e wasn't the same.)

 

[snowy]

Notice how the video needed footage from 5 seasons in order to make a compelling compilation. Also notice how most of his dribbling is done through sprinting in open space, meaning he's useless 90% of the time.

Look at that and compare it to my Neymar video. Rarely ever using his top speed and relying simply on control, skills, trickery, and change of balance. Fake shots are the only thing Dembele has and even that is something he's mediocre at (the ball literally bounces off his feet lol).

yeah but Neymar is one in a billion. It's unfair to compare

Thing with Dembz is, he can be frustrating but he's still fun to watch as you never know what he'll do next. #ComebackPops-2041


Do or die last ditch though, lest Yusuf grab starter spot permanently

 

[Laplacian]

yeah but Neymar is one in a billion. It's unfair to compare

Thing with Dembz is, he can be frustrating but he's still fun to watch as you never know what he'll do next. #ComebackPops-2041


Do or die last ditch though, lest Yusuf grab starter spot permanently

Neymar's overall talent is rare yes, but his dribbling isn't. Tons of dribblers that utilize control, skills, technique, and creativity. Dembele's just a horrid player when it comes to technique.

 

[behindbrowneyes]

really comparing stats of someone playing in freaking wolves with dembele in barca who had GOAT alongside him?

Why do you think he is still playing for freaking Wolves in a league that is throwing around money for above average talented players? Because he is not that good and lacking end product.

Dembele is the more talented player and I wouldn't trade him 1-1 for Traore. Not that I'm a big fan of Dembouz.

 

[Birdy]

[MENTION=22863]Laplacian[/MENTION]
I don't mind if his link-up play is not up to the level required.
No, I would not prefer him to link-up via one-twos etc, because that reminds me of something: Messi, Griezman, Coutinho, Pedri, and all others who have been used on the wing for Barca...
Always cutting centrally and congesting play down the middle...
When one of the fundamental problems with this team for years is the lack of width...

No Thanks

He only had 6 key passes come from his long ball/crosses (according to Opta data). So it is not high. His total chance created are only 39, not high either.
And he only has 29% of success crosses. So i'm not sure how he (that football data analyst) caculates his stats. Does Opta give him full data???

1) All analysts have subscriptions (or work for companies that have subscriptions) with either Opta or Statsbomb, which provide them with the entire data set

2) Key pass and chances created say little compared to xT.
Key pass is a pass that leads to a shot. If someone makes a simple short unmarked pass to a player next to him on the halfway line, and the latter takes a shot, that's registered as key pass. Is it significant? no!
Same problem with 'chances created'

On the contrary, the advantage of xT is that it MEASURES precisely how much increase of the potential threat (xG if a player were to take a shot from there) occurs when a player moves the ball from position A to position B either via a pass, OR via a ball carry.

such as a failed cross over the goal will look like more a threat than a through ball from defense/midfield.

I don't know why you still insist on this, after I explained 3 times already that the failed crosses do not enter the calculation of xT

Btw it is all expected threat.

Yes, that's why it's even more reflecting of the quality of the threat a player generates.
If a player makes successful crosses in the box and the stiker fucks them up, even by not taking a shot eventually, that does not take away anything from potential danger started by the creator
-> hence expected T

 

[Laplacian]

How do you expect Dembele to ever be a part of the build up play if he can't pass? Once again I bring up Neymar, or Ribery, or Robben...being able to pass doesn't transform you into a congested second striker/attacking midfielder, it just makes you a competent forward.

How else are you supposed to deliver final balls if you can't pass? Sprinting and aimlessly crossing isn't cutting it so far for Dembele.

 

[Mateka]

Barcelona president Joan Laporta has confirmed a meeting is scheduled with the agents of Ousmane Dembele, 24, as the Catalan club look to tie the French forward down to a new contract. (Fabrizio Romano)

 

[SmilerBam]

We want to extend this piece of shit contract, and we let the GOAT go...fuck you Ratomeu and Lieporta!

 

[ronniecro]

i'd love to know the reasons he deserves extension

 

[MTL_Barca]

i'd love to know the reasons he deserves extension

So he doesn't leave for free, in case a miracle happens and he stays healthy.

 

[ronniecro]

So he doesn't leave for free, in case a miracle happens and he stays healthy.

so what's worse,him leaving for free or extending him and getting 5 more years of this?

 

[te amo barca]

We want to extend this piece of shit contract, and we let the GOAT go...fuck you Ratomeu and Lieporta!

Extending him on lower wages is the right move instead of losing him on a free, and Laporta couldn't do much about the Messi situation. We were blackmailed by Tebas and CVC.