Paco Alcácer

Trickykid

Active member
If Paco can't do much better than Munir, who was considered "Not good", then how could he be considered good himself? As of now he hasn't shown us anything with Valencia to suggest he is, at least in my opinion. I really hope he does prove me wrong, hence why I referred to him as potential, but as of now, proving himself is what he's going to have to do. Messi looks like he's going to be rested against Alaves. That'll be Paco's first chance.

I'll honestly be really surprised if Paco isn't a clear as day upgrade to Munir, and I doubt you'll find anyone (bar the usual resident whiners, of course) who doesn't rate current Paco over current Munir.

During preseason, in the heat of the moment, I had gladly kept Munir, but now with Paco here, I really prefer our current situation.
 

God Serena

New member
Suarez is missing sitters and passes but then scores 15-20 goals in the last 10 rounds where some other players shit their pants.

That's my point. People act like him missing sitters and giving terrible passes back then was because he was in poor form but really, that's just what he does. He'll miss five sitters and still get a hat trick in the same game sometimes.
 

God Serena

New member
I'll honestly be really surprised if Paco isn't a clear as day upgrade to Munir, and I doubt you'll find anyone (bar the usual resident whiners, of course) who doesn't rate current Paco over current Munir.

During preseason, in the heat of the moment, I had gladly kept Munir, but now with Paco here, I really prefer our current situation.

If you look at comparisons of their stats you have to give excuses for why Paco's stats are comparatively worse. The "He has a bad team" defense is good enough to stop me from thinking he's shit, but I'm not sure where the notion that we have "4 good forwards" is coming from, either.

If he starts his first, second, third, whatever game and doesn't manage to perform, the focus will quickly become "We spent X amount of money on him and got rid of Munir but he isn't helping". There's a chance he could come good if we give him five, six seasons (Hyperbole, don't jump down my throat lol) like many here will say he needs to adapt, but... Munir will be back at the end of this season. And what happens if Munir plays better for Valencia than Paco was?
 

Trickykid

Active member
If you look at comparisons of their stats you have to give excuses for why Paco's stats are comparatively worse. The "He has a bad team" defense is good enough to stop me from thinking he's shit, but I'm not sure where the notion that we have "4 good forwards" is coming from, either.

If he starts his first, second, third, whatever game and doesn't manage to perform, the focus will quickly become "We spent X amount of money on him and got rid of Munir but he isn't helping". There's a chance he could come good if we give him five, six seasons (Hyperbole, don't jump down my throat lol) like many here will say he needs to adapt, but... Munir will be back at the end of this season. And what happens if Munir plays better for Valencia than Paco was?

I really don't want to compare their stats, as there are way, way too many variables. Fact remains that the majority of Munir's goals were scored in the Copa and that he was less than stellar in the league - not just in terms of scoring.

You don't think Paco is good, and I'm not going to try to change your mind on that, so there's not much to discuss really. We'll see how it goes once we get going again.

You're right, though, people will jump on him if he doesn't perform from the get-go, but that's to be expected. Luckily Lucho doesn't give a rats ass about what people and media think of his dispositions.
 

cro-man

Active member
The last world class spanish striker i saw was villa. Never saw this boy playing but there arent many good spanish striker around hope he does better the rest.
 

spark

New member

This video is better than a lot of the others of him because it shows a lot of the number 9 work that Paco contributes which doesn't always show up statistically, but is equally important for the team to score and create chances. Passing movement and associative play are all polished.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
I haven't given my opinion on him yet. Well, I'm not his biggest fan but I hope he proves me wrong. Imo he's far from being on Barca level technically - for the money we paid we could probably get a better player for us.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
I haven't given my opinion on him yet. Well, I'm not his biggest fan but I hope he proves me wrong. Imo he's far from being on Barca level technically - for the money we paid we could probably get a better player for us.

Name a better striker for 30m that we paid?
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
I want all our new signings to succeed.

I think Robert has done a brilliant job. It's really up to the players themselves to work hard and Lucho to give them the opportunity.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
The kid has talent, haven't really kept up with him more than the odd came here and there for Valencia, as I would guess 98% of the board, who are now all paco experts.

Been a fan of his, sense the jese - paco - delou days for Spain u-17.

None of those players have really worked out so far, with paco seemingly doing the best at this point , even though he is clearly the less talented of the 3, just goes to show talent isn't enough, it's about the player and also having the right environment to flourish.
 

God Serena

New member
The kid has talent, haven't really kept up with him more than the odd came here and there for Valencia, as I would guess 98% of the board, who are now all paco experts.

Been a fan of his, sense the jese - paco - delou days for Spain u-17.

None of those players have really worked out so far, with paco seemingly doing the best at this point , even though he is clearly the less talented of the 3, just goes to show talent isn't enough, it's about the player and also having the right environment to flourish.

How is Paco doing the best out of the 3? Just because he plays for Barca now, even before his first game?
 

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